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5/9 08:55:38.852  [Guild] Eluminore: welcome
5/9 08:55:39.113  Joined Channel: [1. General - Shattrath City]
5/9 08:55:39.116  Joined Channel: [2. LocalDefense - Shattrath City]
5/9 08:55:46.265  [Guild] Thoguht: Hi!
5/9 08:55:52.434  [Guild] Réjean: Hello
5/9 08:55:52.630  [Guild] Araculla: welcome!
5/9 08:55:52.881  [Guild] Gyges: hey -- where are we going to be at in Bladefist Bay?  Is swimming req'd?
5/9 08:55:53.234  [Guild] Kathianim: hello
5/9 08:55:55.735  [Guild] Nokota: Hiya Thog
5/9 08:56:03.129  [Guild] Liebenwalde: a summons would be nice, thanks
5/9 08:56:04.027  [Guild] Apophenius: bring your bathing suit
5/9 08:56:05.992  [Guild] Computabull: short swim on surface
5/9 08:56:18.421  [Guild] Gonzorina: 57,3
5/9 08:56:46.717  [Guild] Computabull: brb
5/9 08:56:47.412  Jakola has come online.
5/9 08:57:08.502  [Guild] Liebenwalde: good morning, btw, from the sunny west coast
5/9 08:57:10.430  A'dal says: 'Broken, then betrayed by one, standing there bestride the sun.'
5/9 08:57:16.533  A'dal says: 'At darkest hour, redemption comes, in knightly lady sworn to blood.'
5/9 08:57:18.335  [Guild] Gonzorina: Very nice little crowd gathering out here in Bladefist Bay!
5/9 08:57:20.737  [Guild] Ybika: good evening from sunny sweden ;)
5/9 08:57:21.282  [Guild] Eluminore: good morning. A bit overcast here  :P
5/9 08:57:21.646  [Guild] Réjean: good morning
5/9 08:57:23.097  [Guild] Mariadr: Time to dismiss pet - some people start to lag
5/9 08:57:39.413  Shiyali has come online.
5/9 08:57:39.413  [Guild] Alishya: Good afternoon, from the dreary east coast.
5/9 08:57:39.413  Changed Channel: [1. General - Orgrimmar]
5/9 08:57:39.420  Changed Channel: [2. LocalDefense - Orgrimmar]
5/9 08:57:45.913  [Guild] Perplextar: Good morn from Spain
5/9 08:57:58.558  [Guild] Jakola: Good evening from Norway:)
5/9 08:57:58.842  [Guild] Zomboni: (Thelial): good mornin, evening, afternoon all
5/9 08:58:08.029  Maggiemae has come online.
5/9 08:58:10.942  Jusdafacs has gone offline.
5/9 08:58:12.836  [Guild] Apophenius: looks like big sur!
5/9 08:58:16.485  [Guild] Ybika: ah nice to see other european timezone folks :)
5/9 08:58:31.452  [Guild] Ybika: poke for summons if you need. have a few shards left
5/9 08:58:32.776  Maiidi has come online.
5/9 08:58:34.687  [Guild] Shiyali: Good morning (barely) from Canada!
5/9 08:58:50.472  [Guild] Maggiemae: hello everyone
5/9 08:58:52.120  [Guild] Maiidi: morning everyone
5/9 08:58:58.582  [Guild] Valieria: do we have a Vent server up??
5/9 08:58:58.948  [Guild] Araculla: morning
5/9 08:59:00.413  Changed Channel: [1. General - Durotar]
5/9 08:59:00.416  Changed Channel: [2. LocalDefense - Durotar]
5/9 08:59:00.635  [Guild] Eluminore: hello
5/9 08:59:03.150  [Guild] Maiidi: panics and wonders where she should be
5/9 08:59:10.990  [Guild] Kathianim: How do I get there again?  I'm at the zeppelin
5/9 08:59:14.620  [Guild] Perplextar: are we supposed to stay here on the beach or go to town for picture?
5/9 08:59:17.778  [Guild] Eluminore: 10 or so of us are in Thrall's chamber now
5/9 08:59:19.828  [Guild] Computabull: no voice, guild chat.  use /chatlog to preserve your text
5/9 08:59:27.874  [Guild] Valieria: np
5/9 08:59:29.076  [Guild] Rissy: Maiidi! laugh...Ogrimmar is close
5/9 08:59:30.221  [Guild] Irma: I'm headed towards zep now
5/9 08:59:35.192  Earadorn has come online.
5/9 08:59:37.075  Jusdafacs has come online.
5/9 08:59:41.414  [Guild] Alishya: From the Org Zepplin, run east until you're wet, then swim a little bit north. :)
5/9 08:59:44.611  [Guild] Araculla: i need help getting to thrall
5/9 08:59:47.648  [Guild] Shahkh: does chatlog not update until you log out?  I couldn't bring up the most recent log events
5/9 08:59:49.887  [Guild] Computabull: Can the people in Thrall's chapber tak picture of each other? Screen shot instructions on the Inportant Information part of the wiki
5/9 09:00:04.260  [Guild] Computabull: I donlt check chatlog while on
5/9 09:00:16.679  [Guild] Mariadr: are we meeting in Thrall's chamber or by bank?
5/9 09:00:23.732  [Guild] Maiidi: am in silvermoon city can someone give me  a clue
5/9 09:00:26.035  [Guild] Shahkh: ok, then I think it must be that way.  Just fyi
5/9 09:00:26.035  [Guild] Shotokahn: what do we need to do to get tuxes?
5/9 09:00:31.999  [Guild] Computabull: Anybody need tabard?
5/9 09:00:43.777  You greet everyone warmly.
5/9 09:00:46.711  [Guild] Forme: from silvermoon you can get to undercity and then take a zep to org
5/9 09:00:51.208  Rissy greets everyone warmly.
5/9 09:00:51.758  [Guild] Yasura: There is a teleportation orb at Sunfury Spire. WIll take you to Undercity. Can take the zep to Org
5/9 09:00:54.773  Jusdafacs waves at you.
5/9 09:01:01.338  [Guild] Khatchi: @maiidi there's a translocation orb where the boss isd
5/9 09:01:03.404  Zomboni greets you warmly.
5/9 09:01:11.652  [Guild] Ybika: can also summon a few more so give a poke if you want the express method ;)
5/9 09:01:27.177  To Ybika: Hi TL!
5/9 09:01:27.444  Kvinesdal has come online.
5/9 09:01:34.442  [Guild] Maggiemae: if anyone is really stuck and you are in a capital city, please let me know and i will come port you
5/9 09:01:39.323  Ybika whispers: hey! nice to see ya :)
5/9 09:01:40.423  [Guild] Niali: he's in valley of wisdom, right?
5/9 09:01:41.340  [Guild] Serne: To get from Ogrimmar to Bladefist without having to face the level 10 critters, get on the airship, then jump out as soon as it is over the water.
5/9 09:01:56.583  To Ybika: I submitted something to the In the Game preconf  :)
5/9 09:02:03.947  [Guild] Ybika: we can add names to guild notes too if you want yours there but don't have it noted yet
5/9 09:02:10.994  Ybika whispers: great!! :)
5/9 09:02:13.393  Wohitika has gone offline.
5/9 09:02:31.453  [Guild] Serne: Let me know how you get on...
5/9 09:02:32.019  [Guild] Forme: anyone still need to get to thrall?
5/9 09:02:32.019  Teilnehmer has gone offline.
5/9 09:02:46.897  [Guild] Mariadr: a bunch of us are by the bank
5/9 09:02:48.713  [Guild] Gyges: if you swim north from the shore, you end up in Azshara -- is it NE?
5/9 09:02:50.112  Artume has come online.
5/9 09:02:51.295  [Guild] Perplextar: I came running, died couple times but no big deal
5/9 09:02:52.677  Profsmith has come online.
5/9 09:02:54.278  [Guild] Mariadr: are we meeting by the bank or by thrall?
5/9 09:02:55.677  [Guild] Forme: i'm omw there
5/9 09:02:58.259  No player named 'judafacs' is currently playing.
5/9 09:03:00.091  [Guild] Forme: passing bank now
5/9 09:03:01.224  Noanok has come online.
5/9 09:03:11.553  Bormanus greets everyone with a hearty hello!
5/9 09:03:17.817  Zomboni greets Bormanus warmly.
5/9 09:03:21.432  Dyonesia has come online.
5/9 09:03:21.866  To Jusdafacs: are the trn folk on ts or vent?  :)
5/9 09:03:24.449  [Guild] Cloacina: how do we change our view to look at ourselves?
5/9 09:03:27.876  Teilnehmer has come online.
5/9 09:03:28.963  Jusdafacs whispers: I don't know
5/9 09:03:34.862  Bormanus says: Excuse me, but I am here for the Science event.
5/9 09:03:36.810  Jusdafacs whispers: didn't see a note about it
5/9 09:03:37.873  [Guild] Profsmith: hello
5/9 09:03:39.227  [Guild] Computabull: We seem to be forming both at the bank and at Thrall, we can march to the site in 20 minutes.
5/9 09:03:40.909  Jusdafacs whispers: let me check
5/9 09:03:41.707  Parnopaeus's Unknown is dismissed.
5/9 09:03:43.474  [Guild] Valieria: use your scroll wheel
5/9 09:03:46.057  [Guild] Forme: just use mouse wheel to zoom out
5/9 09:03:46.873  Zomboni smiles at Bormanus.
5/9 09:03:49.456  Serne says: Hello and welcome
5/9 09:03:50.006  Jusdafacs says: do you have your nametage, Bor?
5/9 09:03:51.405  [Guild] Geradamas: right click on the screen and "spin the camera around"
5/9 09:03:52.255  [Guild] Saureus: left-click + rotate mouse
5/9 09:03:54.803  Alishya says: Sorry, no Science here.
5/9 09:03:58.436  [Guild] Ybika: poke for summons
5/9 09:04:00.385  Serne says: lol
5/9 09:04:00.651  Parnopaeus greets everyone warmly.
5/9 09:04:01.467  [Guild] Geradamas: ack , left I maen
5/9 09:04:03.800  Bormanus says: No, I have no nametag.
5/9 09:04:04.366  Alishya says: Nope, not a one...
5/9 09:04:21.514  Serne says: I'm the only orc here?
5/9 09:04:31.949  Aquaregia has come online.
5/9 09:04:34.172  Thoguht says: I don't exist.
5/9 09:04:36.104  Jusdafacs whispers: you can join /terrornova
5/9 09:04:49.449  Serne says: What is that?
5/9 09:04:50.016  Alishya says: Sorry, couldnt' see you in all that black. Sneaky and all.
5/9 09:04:50.432  Joined Channel: [4. terrornova]
5/9 09:05:00.978  Amulii has come online.
5/9 09:05:00.978  [Guild] Babyseal: thrall looks a little bit annoyed by all of our dancing....
5/9 09:05:07.376  Gonzorina says: that mechanical pet is making a lot of noise...
5/9 09:05:10.291  Zomboni tells a joke.
5/9 09:05:13.023  [Guild] Alishya: Thrall always looks annoyed.
5/9 09:05:16.544  [Guild] Eluminore: he hasn't had his coffee this morning
5/9 09:05:18.160  Thoguht says: It'll die soon...
5/9 09:05:19.971  [Guild] Apophenius: dismiss pet pls
5/9 09:05:21.420  Idnan laughs.
5/9 09:05:23.602  Serne says: Mechanical pet! Unplug it someone
5/9 09:05:23.869  Bormanus laughs.
5/9 09:05:28.938  Thoguht says: (( might want to turn down your speakers for a sec ))
5/9 09:05:35.266  Serne says: OK
5/9 09:05:41.312  [Guild] Apophenius: someone shoot it
5/9 09:05:42.779  [Guild] Charolais: Thrall looks like he is sitting on the "Throne"
5/9 09:05:45.777  [Guild] Dyonesia: greetings all
5/9 09:05:46.626  Zomboni cowers in fear at the sight of Crashin' Thrashin' Robot.
5/9 09:05:46.927  Jusdafacs whispers: I've started up TS, nobody on, though
5/9 09:05:50.159  Thoguht says: It can't be unsummoned.. just dies.
5/9 09:05:50.159  Catullus has come online.
5/9 09:05:52.554  Gonzorina's pet begins eating a Tel'Abim Banana.
5/9 09:05:59.787  Gonzorina laughs.
5/9 09:06:00.620  Parnopaeus pokes Crashin' Thrashin' Robot.  Hey!
5/9 09:06:10.454  Serne says: The griefers are here - what did I tell you...
5/9 09:06:11.284  Jusdafacs says: what's the command for recording chat again?
5/9 09:06:11.933  [Guild] Painmanager: greets! hurry to Thrall's chamber
5/9 09:06:16.971  Gonzorina says: So here's the first issue of the conference!  Pet noise...
5/9 09:06:20.446  Zomboni ponders Crashin' Thrashin' Robot's actions.
5/9 09:06:20.731  [Guild] Aquaregia: lol
5/9 09:06:22.615  [Guild] Dyonesia: i wonder if we should form a party for the convoy
5/9 09:06:26.112  Alishya says: ((wish my engineer was here. That's only the second one I've seen since I got the pattern.))
5/9 09:06:29.093  Thoguht says: But he's so cute!
5/9 09:06:30.310  Bormanus says: May I have a guild invite please.
5/9 09:06:43.122  Zomboni bonks Crashin' Thrashin' Robot on the noggin.  Doh!
5/9 09:06:45.754  Bormanus has joined the guild.
5/9 09:06:45.754  Bormanus has already been invited to a guild.
5/9 09:06:47.054  Gzzomg says: So what's the relation between elves and ogres?
5/9 09:06:47.864  Bormanus thanks everyone.
5/9 09:06:50.401  Irma eyes Crashin' Thrashin' Robot up and down.
5/9 09:06:50.769  [Guild] Amulii: where are we supposed to meet up?
5/9 09:06:51.052  [Guild] Ybika: welcome
5/9 09:06:52.002  [Guild] Catullus: people can form parties and raids as they wish, but use the Guild chat
5/9 09:06:53.817  [Guild] Araculla: welcome
5/9 09:06:59.939  [Guild] Ybika: send a whisper if you need a summon
5/9 09:07:07.747  [Guild] Mariadr: Meeting by Thrall - Valley of Wisdom in Orgrimmar
5/9 09:07:14.910  [Guild] Togda: follow me for 100 ppl, would be a nice parade
5/9 09:07:21.352  [Guild] Babyseal: yeah, why don't we raid...then at least we can follow the dots if anyone gets lost
5/9 09:07:27.521  In quiet contemplation, you mourn the loss of the dead.
5/9 09:07:28.621  [Guild] Apophenius: yeah!
5/9 09:07:31.952  In quiet contemplation, Zomboni mourns the loss of the dead.
5/9 09:07:34.202  Parnopaeus cries.
5/9 09:07:36.084  [Guild] Kiliel: more dots!
5/9 09:07:42.332  [Guild] Yasura: ...stop dots :<
5/9 09:07:42.335  [Guild] Jusdafacs: there's a maximum number for a raid party, no?
5/9 09:07:42.598  [Guild] Aquaregia: Dots are good.  
5/9 09:07:44.814  [Guild] Lack: more dots, more dots!
5/9 09:07:47.875  [Guild] Babyseal: not that....you know....I have to do that a lot...
5/9 09:07:54.643  [Guild] Babyseal: 40
5/9 09:08:07.964  Thoguht says: Alright, I'll refrain from calling out Sparky again.
5/9 09:08:08.323  [Guild] Earadorn: ok, where is the Thrall - Valley of Wisdom?
5/9 09:08:09.271  [Guild] Babyseal: oh, yeah, we'd need 2 raids
5/9 09:08:09.271  [Guild] Maggiemae: maximum 40 per raid
5/9 09:08:12.337  Jusdafacs dances with you.
5/9 09:08:23.627  [Guild] Charolais: we have 78 online now
5/9 09:08:23.898  Jusdafacs says: you look badass thoguht
5/9 09:08:26.031  You dance with Jusdafacs.
5/9 09:08:28.014  [Guild] Liebenwalde: heh, could i have another summons, so i can go back to Org
5/9 09:08:29.181  [Guild] Dyonesia: well that's probably fine just worried about people (like me who doesn't really know my way around these parts) getting lost
5/9 09:08:29.447  [Guild] Painmanager: send summon to Amulii please
5/9 09:08:29.713  [Guild] Akigain: nice
5/9 09:08:31.829  You bow before Jusdafacs.
5/9 09:08:32.446  [Guild] Idnan: invite to raid - if started
5/9 09:08:35.394  Zomboni cheers at you.
5/9 09:08:37.077  [Guild] Bormanus: The raids would make it easy to not get lost though.
5/9 09:08:42.126  [Guild] Babyseal: Thrall is in Orgrimmar
5/9 09:09:02.070  [Guild] Lightsydor: Invite to raid please, if there is still room
5/9 09:09:03.184  [Guild] Maiidi: Rissa can you whisper Earadorn (am stuck in SL)
5/9 09:09:05.583  [Guild] Alishya: I pity the poor alliance town if we get this many people for the attacking raid Sunday...
5/9 09:09:06.883  [Guild] Bormanus: I have no exp on Horde, so I don't know my way around.
5/9 09:09:10.715  [Guild] Earadorn: ok, where is Orgrimmar?
5/9 09:09:11.398  To Jusdafacs: What's the server info?... though I don't have a mic... if you want to talk to me I can join  :)
5/9 09:09:11.964  [Guild] Idnan: i'm going to start inviting then...
5/9 09:09:26.608  Jusdafacs whispers: ts.igso.net:8767
5/9 09:09:26.891  [Guild] Painmanager: THRALL is in the building below ORG in map of Ogrimmar
5/9 09:09:28.291  Slizelina has joined the guild.
5/9 09:09:29.940  [Guild] Charolais: invite pls
5/9 09:09:30.856  Getfunked has gone offline.
5/9 09:09:33.988  [Guild] Kathianim: invite please
5/9 09:09:36.120  Lightsydor has gone offline.
5/9 09:09:36.688  [4. terrornova] Jusdafacs: is there anybody else on this chat?
5/9 09:09:36.971  Selie has come online.
5/9 09:09:39.465  Getfunked has come online.
5/9 09:09:41.661  [Guild] Noralore: invite pls
5/9 09:09:46.478  [Guild] Idnan: pst for invites
5/9 09:09:52.648  Arathise has come online.
5/9 09:09:56.546  [Guild] Rissy: From Silvermoon City, go to the Palace, go to the back, upstairs to the Orb, right click on that and translocate to Undercity.
5/9 09:09:59.590  [Guild] Aquaregia: I want to join the raid but unfortuantely I need to tend to another half hour of work.  
5/9 09:10:03.571  [Guild] Computabull: Thrall is surrounded by Science guildies!
5/9 09:10:04.972  Réjean has gone offline.
5/9 09:10:11.319  [Guild] Akigain: lol
5/9 09:10:12.683  [Guild] Eluminore: lol now we have 81...even 2 raids won't cover it  :P
5/9 09:10:13.866  [Guild] Earadorn: ok, many of us have no Horde Exp, and have no idea where that is, being lvl 10 did not go far?
5/9 09:10:14.199  [Guild] Rissy: From that point head out the door and outside of the ruins, then cross to the Zeppelin.
5/9 09:10:15.349  [Guild] Aquaregia: We're enThralled?
5/9 09:10:19.166  [Guild] Kiliel: pick pocket him
5/9 09:10:21.770  [Guild] Niali: it's a hordie-pile!
5/9 09:10:22.052  [Guild] Apophenius: it's like the sermon on the  mount - lol!
5/9 09:10:22.052  [Guild] Rissy: Take the Zeppelin to Ogrimmar.
5/9 09:10:29.302  [Guild] Kiliel: he drops blues
5/9 09:10:31.727  Jusdafacs whispers: password is uhm, ilovetheninjarch  (i think)
5/9 09:10:36.445  Apophenius bursts into dance.
5/9 09:10:40.111  [Guild] Clarion: everyone face out for the camera!
5/9 09:10:43.760  Zomboni smiles at Panda Cub.
5/9 09:10:44.043  Serne says: Anyone know any virtual worlds jokes?
5/9 09:10:45.176  [Guild] Rissy: Head to Bladefist Bay from Ogrimmar--Will invite you to our group so you can see where we are on map k?
5/9 09:10:56.817  Parnopaeus tells a joke.
5/9 09:11:06.303  Serne says: I don't get it
5/9 09:11:08.458  Zomboni tells a joke to Panda Cub.
5/9 09:11:09.291  Mairen has come online.
5/9 09:11:09.646  [Guild] Clarion: turn around and smile for the camera!
5/9 09:11:14.841  [Guild] Clarion: (folkd at THrall)
5/9 09:11:15.683  [Guild] Apophenius: towards the ocean?
5/9 09:11:22.845  To Jusdafacs: thanks!
5/9 09:11:24.512  Ophelie has come online.
5/9 09:11:29.144  Apophenius waves.
5/9 09:11:31.209  [Guild] Getfunked: in the bay, in class, BAD TEACHER
5/9 09:11:32.126  [Guild] Rissy: Yes
5/9 09:11:33.341  Irma says: serne needs an arcane intellect buff  :)
5/9 09:11:37.340  [Guild] Ybika: is perplextar in a group with a lock?
5/9 09:11:38.376  [Guild] Southerncal: If you need to find the way out of Silvermoon, hit M to open your map and find your way to the Sunspire. Go ina dn up and click on the "Orb" at the top. That gets you to just outside Undercity.
5/9 09:11:40.706  Réjean has come online.
5/9 09:11:50.819  Passera has come online.
5/9 09:11:56.883  [Guild] Idnan: pst for invites to raid (for traking group progress at least...)
5/9 09:12:06.849  [1. General] Sasskei: The Greater Good is seeking new recruits. We're a Social Leveling Guild where wardrobe malfunctions are acceptable. All levels and classes welcome.  Whisper if interested. Bras and Pants are optional.
5/9 09:12:09.294  Réjean has gone offline.
5/9 09:12:15.493  Thoguht says: We probably should've had escorts at all the major cities for Hordies who get lost easy.
5/9 09:12:18.241  [Guild] Eluminore: Alt+Z to hide interface for those wanting to take "clean" screen shots
5/9 09:12:21.441  Jusdafacs says: you know, we could have summoned people using the summoning stone in Org
5/9 09:12:43.299  Parnopaeus says: ...that would have been an excellent plan. 
5/9 09:12:43.933  [Guild] Slizelina: is there a diferent command for the mac
5/9 09:12:44.216  [Guild] Cplane: Does anyone here at the bank want an escort to Thrall?
5/9 09:12:44.748  Serne says: I never get lost - people always tell me where to go!
5/9 09:12:48.513  [Guild] Khatchi: I can make another trip to Eastern Kingdoms for those who are lost there
5/9 09:12:49.413  [Guild] Slizelina: got it
5/9 09:13:11.832  [Guild] Jusdafacs: We could probably summon people using the summoning stone in Orgrimmar
5/9 09:13:15.753  [Guild] Eluminore: who else is lost, whisper me and I'll try to help
5/9 09:13:22.533  [Guild] Kathianim: haha, it's an undead train
5/9 09:13:22.660  [Guild] Charolais: /r 
5/9 09:13:27.343  [Guild] Maggiemae: if you are lost please let us know!
5/9 09:13:28.881  [Guild] Ybika: i have a few shards left so can also poke me for a summon
5/9 09:13:30.949  [Guild] Rissy: That help Chriis and Maddi?
5/9 09:13:35.276  [Guild] Slizelina: im a little lost
5/9 09:13:36.378  [Guild] Charolais: /r so that we can see each other on the map for noobs
5/9 09:13:40.460  [Guild] Maggiemae: i can come and port you if you are in a city
5/9 09:13:49.149  [Guild] Ophelie: We're heading out from Org now, if anyone wants to follow. I have the coords and know pretty much where I'm going.
5/9 09:13:51.348  Gyges bursts into dance.
5/9 09:13:51.625  Gzzomg says: Poor Voidwalkers really suffer.
5/9 09:13:54.134  Jusdafacs says: it would be funny if an alli passed by here
5/9 09:14:00.850  Zomboni sighs at Thulrath.
5/9 09:14:02.167  Serne says: Yes!
5/9 09:14:11.433  [Guild] Computabull: Fine to have parties or raids, so long as you use the Guild chat for discussions
5/9 09:14:29.629  You clap excitedly for Gyges.
5/9 09:14:31.310  [Guild] Forme: just party up or raid up with ppl who know where to go
5/9 09:14:32.818  Réjean has come online.
5/9 09:14:33.384  [Guild] Idnan: did anyone not get invite - pst for raid invite
5/9 09:14:35.260  Artume has gone offline.
5/9 09:14:43.371  Zomboni cheers!
5/9 09:14:47.112  [Guild] Lack: i think it would be pretty amazing to go to a conference in real life to find people dancing furiously before it started.
5/9 09:14:47.378  [Guild] Computabull: Anybody need tabard?
5/9 09:14:49.026  To Idnan: Hi! invite pls
5/9 09:14:55.512  [Guild] Akigain: lol
5/9 09:14:56.051  Artume has come online.
5/9 09:14:57.043  Zenoelea greets everyone with a hearty hello!
5/9 09:14:57.881  Irma bursts into dance.
5/9 09:15:00.975  [Guild] Profsmith: how can you "dismiss" your pet?
5/9 09:15:05.155  Idnan has invited you to join a group.
5/9 09:15:06.752  Parnopaeus bursts into dance.
5/9 09:15:07.547  Lightsydor has come online.
5/9 09:15:08.349  Looting changed to Group Loot.
5/9 09:15:08.349  Loot threshold set to Uncommon.
5/9 09:15:08.373  You have joined a raid group.
5/9 09:15:10.190  [Guild] Painmanager: use the pet item again to dismiss
5/9 09:15:10.190  Ophelie has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:15:10.484  [Guild] Lack: just click the box again
5/9 09:15:13.397  [Guild] Jakola: lol@Lack
5/9 09:15:15.748  Zomboni bursts into dance.
5/9 09:15:18.132  Réjean has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:15:23.206  Asaruludu has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:15:38.949  [Guild] Maggiemae: anyone else lost, need help?
5/9 09:15:43.176  [Guild] Shahkh: so true lack
5/9 09:15:44.595  [Raid] Noanok: it'd be fun to actually do a raid
5/9 09:15:45.164  [Guild] Lightsydor: If I could get another raid invite pls, I had a dc ;-)
5/9 09:15:45.421  [Guild] Clarion: are we done with the group photos at Thrall?
5/9 09:15:51.117  [Guild] Clarion: are we heading for the bay?
5/9 09:15:51.117  Deaxter has come online.
5/9 09:16:01.937  [Guild] Ybika: shout now while the getting is good for a summon ;)
5/9 09:16:02.222  [Guild] Rissy: Yes to the bay
5/9 09:16:07.813  [Guild] Catullus: Guess we are heading for the Bay
5/9 09:16:18.387  [Guild] Clarion: to the bay!
5/9 09:16:33.056  [Guild] Catullus: GET the flight path if you do not have it, from the flight master on the tower behind the bank!
5/9 09:16:35.483  [Guild] Clarion: I'm off - for those at THrall who wish to follow
5/9 09:16:41.154  [Guild] Shahkh: Do we need to start a second raid?
5/9 09:16:46.990  Idnan bursts into dance.
5/9 09:17:00.115  [Guild] Araculla: can i join the raid please
5/9 09:17:06.144  Dissimula has joined the guild.
5/9 09:17:06.419  [Guild] Computabull: I will wait here for stragglers, Catullus is headed to the site
5/9 09:17:08.652  [Guild] Rissy: Look at all the folks swimming in!
5/9 09:17:10.439  [Guild] Lightsydor: Yes - second raid please :-)
5/9 09:17:10.439  Ofielia has come online.
5/9 09:17:10.714  [Guild] Maggiemae: welcome!
5/9 09:17:11.449  [Guild] Idnan: 7 spots left in raid - 6
5/9 09:17:12.346  Araculla has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:17:15.935  [Guild] Eluminore: invite to raid plz
5/9 09:17:20.843  Eluminore has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:17:21.190  [Guild] Réjean: where is the conference happenning?  At the bay?
5/9 09:17:24.620  [Guild] Bowhunk: inv please
5/9 09:17:24.898  Gonzorina bursts into dance.
5/9 09:17:25.724  [Guild] Shotokahn: invite please
5/9 09:17:26.252  Irma bursts into dance.
5/9 09:17:26.610  [Guild] Apophenius: invite please
5/9 09:17:29.384  [Guild] Maggiemae: stragglers, let us know when you need help
5/9 09:17:30.490  [Guild] Ofielia: invite please
5/9 09:17:30.772  [Guild] Rissy: Any purpose to joining the raid other than getting here?
5/9 09:17:31.604  [Guild] Lightsydor: Invite here also, no mods :-)
5/9 09:17:31.604  Bowhunk has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:17:34.996  [Raid] Geradamas: does it make sense to take the ratchet>bb boat if I don't have the gromgol fp?
5/9 09:17:35.838  [Guild] Yasura: If there are any that are really new to WoW, to type something in guild chat type the command /g. To whisper something it's /w <Name>
5/9 09:17:38.221  [Guild] Kaseido: invite please?
5/9 09:17:39.061  [Guild] Passera: i'll take an invite too
5/9 09:17:39.337  [Guild] Shugar: ohmigod, the zombies are coming!!!
5/9 09:17:41.463  Mariadr's Blondie is dismissed.
5/9 09:17:43.629  [Guild] Catullus: raid not crucial
5/9 09:17:43.629  Shotokahn has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:17:45.669  Noanok claps excitedly.
5/9 09:17:47.418  Apophenius has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:17:50.147  Ofielia has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:17:50.532  [Guild] Lightsydor: Just for location :-)
5/9 09:17:57.165  [Guild] Maggiemae: there are still some of us in org who can help  you get there
5/9 09:17:57.736  [Guild] Ybika: summons anyone?
5/9 09:18:04.354  [Guild] Dissimula: ty for invite, hello everyone
5/9 09:18:05.849  [Guild] Thoguht: Well, you can keep track of all of our health and mana...  :p
5/9 09:18:11.432  Nokota says: brb
5/9 09:18:11.435  Passera has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:18:14.034  [Guild] Idnan: raid 1 full
5/9 09:18:14.938  [Guild] Khatchi: one person all the way in Mulgore
5/9 09:18:18.564  [Guild] Geradamas: that might help protect lowbies
5/9 09:18:31.341  [Guild] Dissimula: we are heading up coast or has loc been changed?
5/9 09:18:40.636  Mariadr kneels down.
5/9 09:18:50.985  Ofielia has left the raid group.
5/9 09:18:52.447  [Guild] Liebenwalde: is there another raid forming?
5/9 09:18:58.576  Southerncal has left the raid group.
5/9 09:19:06.777  [Guild] Liebenwalde: can i get raid invite?
5/9 09:19:09.627  [4. terrornova] *Jusdafacs, Thoguht
5/9 09:19:12.962  Liebenwalde has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:19:14.972  Getfunked bursts into dance.
5/9 09:19:15.257  Mariadr has left the raid group.
5/9 09:19:16.991  [Guild] Lightsydor: I can form one - but don't have direction location here...
5/9 09:19:21.406  [Raid] Liebenwalde: thanks
5/9 09:19:21.673  [Guild] Lack: the phrase "herding cats" comes to mind.
5/9 09:19:26.102  Gyges bursts into dance.
5/9 09:19:32.514  [Guild] Mariadr: herding teh horde
5/9 09:19:34.756  [Guild] Deaxter: Invite?
5/9 09:19:35.307  [Guild] Dyonesia: lol Lack yes indeed
5/9 09:19:35.307  Jusdafacs says: meow
5/9 09:19:39.395  [Guild] Lightsydor: Or please invite me to the raid
5/9 09:19:40.788  [Guild] Gzzomg: All virtual world events are like this.
5/9 09:19:41.592  [Guild] Yasura: For the Herd :)
5/9 09:19:42.983  Irma moos. Mooooooooooo.
5/9 09:19:45.737  [Guild] Lack: haha
5/9 09:19:46.529  [Guild] Dyonesia: lol
5/9 09:19:49.195  [Guild] Kaseido: lol!
5/9 09:19:50.557  [Guild] Jusdafacs: lol
5/9 09:19:51.680  [Guild] Aquaregia: Mooo!
5/9 09:19:52.233  [Guild] Maggiemae: LOL
5/9 09:19:52.519  [Guild] Noralore: lol
5/9 09:19:52.773  Lightsydor has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:19:55.423  Bormanus moos. Mooooooooooo.
5/9 09:19:56.261  Jusdafacs moos at Togda. Mooooooooooo.
5/9 09:19:59.154  [Raid] Lightsydor: Thanks!
5/9 09:19:59.422  [Guild] Thoguht: For lost folk, don't worry, we're never gonna give you up.
5/9 09:20:04.405  [Guild] Babyseal: Hey, over in alliance we always talk about how the horde are so organized and work together so well
5/9 09:20:05.486  [Guild] Apophenius: so whats first the presentations or the raid?
5/9 09:20:05.750  Noanok laughs.
5/9 09:20:07.535  Araculla moos at Asaruludu. Mooooooooooo.
5/9 09:20:10.336  [Guild] Lack: Never gonna let you down, either.
5/9 09:20:15.487  Mariadr hugs Asaruludu.
5/9 09:20:20.769  [Guild] Geradamas: UGH organizing a real raid -- distributing pots and getting buffs... >.<
5/9 09:20:23.789  Mariadr hugs Araculla.
5/9 09:20:24.436  [Guild] Computabull: Many people are at the site now
5/9 09:20:26.237  [Guild] Slizelina: awwwww
5/9 09:20:26.787  [Guild] Ybika: if you want your offline name added to the guild notes panel just give a whisper btw
5/9 09:20:26.787  [Guild] Teilnehmer: presentations plz
5/9 09:20:30.869  [Guild] Southerncal: May never even tell a lie or hurt you
5/9 09:20:31.158  [Guild] Eluminore: Those in Org, when you leave, turn immediately left and go to the coast...that's where people are headed
5/9 09:20:33.872  [Guild] Uljasa: so true -- the Horde are always better organized than the alliance ...
5/9 09:20:35.858  [Guild] Noanok: never gonna run around and desert you
5/9 09:20:45.676  [Guild] Kaseido: Val, nice ride!
5/9 09:20:55.401  [Guild] Geradamas: wait, the coast of org?
5/9 09:20:55.683  You laugh.
5/9 09:20:59.934  [Guild] Parnopaeus: ...did we just get rickrolled?
5/9 09:21:04.157  Kiliel pokes Cplane.  Hey!
5/9 09:21:05.367  [Guild] Dissimula: directions are helpful ty Eluminore
5/9 09:21:07.036  [Guild] Irma: indeed
5/9 09:21:08.129  [Guild] Yasura: never gonna--er, yes, maybe
5/9 09:21:08.686  [Guild] Babyseal: so, off to the beach?
5/9 09:21:09.145  [Guild] Lack: apparently so.
5/9 09:21:16.905  [Guild] Geradamas: >.<
5/9 09:21:21.857  Nokota waves at you.
5/9 09:21:26.801  [Guild] Computabull: Yes, east of Org, just past the Zep tower, swim slightly north, and you'll see 40 people there now
5/9 09:21:42.816  Eluminore greets everyone warmly.
5/9 09:21:46.749  Apophenius has left the raid group.
5/9 09:21:48.136  [Guild] Parnopaeus: has anyone seen the screenshot of the "orcroll"? where a guild created level 1 orcs with the lyrics to that song as names, and lined them up in org... haha
5/9 09:21:49.797  [Guild] Geradamas: I see em on my map
5/9 09:21:50.617  Zomboni cheers!
5/9 09:21:50.909  Grimflower moos. Mooooooooooo.
5/9 09:21:51.722  Painmanager salutes Eluminore with respect.
5/9 09:21:55.239  Saureus has gone offline.
5/9 09:21:55.916  [Guild] Computabull: People at the bank: Do you want to follow COmputabull?
5/9 09:22:00.802  Apophenius has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:22:02.443  Jusdafacs bursts into dance.
5/9 09:22:04.360  Eluminore cheers at Togda!
5/9 09:22:05.780  Gonzorina waves at Catullus.
5/9 09:22:10.408  Saureus has come online.
5/9 09:22:10.966  Shotokahn's Romulous is dismissed.
5/9 09:22:10.966  [Guild] Dissimula: hope someone brought something to kill to the site.... must kill stufff
5/9 09:22:11.891  [Guild] Uljasa: raid invitation please -- if one is available -- thanks!
5/9 09:24:06.838  Welcome to World of Warcraft!
5/9 09:24:06.838  Patch 2.4 is now live!
5/9 09:24:06.838  If you are experiencing gameplay issues after patching, please make sure to
5/9 09:24:06.838  uninstall your outdated UI mods.  Thank you!
5/9 09:24:07.124  Looting changed to Group Loot.
5/9 09:24:07.124  Loot threshold set to Uncommon.
5/9 09:24:07.124  You have joined a raid group.
5/9 09:24:08.550  [Guild] Dyonesia: airship
5/9 09:24:08.991  Joined Channel: [1. General - Durotar]
5/9 09:24:08.991  Joined Channel: [2. LocalDefense - Durotar]
5/9 09:24:08.991  Joined Channel: [4. terrornova]
5/9 09:24:09.678  Alishya says: bur agol
5/9 09:24:12.065  [Guild] Yasura: The Zep! :D
5/9 09:24:18.425  [Guild] Scienceagain: its a blimp!
5/9 09:24:22.116  [Guild] Gonzorina: 88 out of 246 guild members online and counting!
5/9 09:24:48.582  Lack cheers!
5/9 09:24:50.216  [Guild] Araculla: wow
5/9 09:25:01.492  To Nokota: just started fraps  :)
5/9 09:25:04.570  [Guild] Profsmith: is it important to be in a raid once you are at the presentation spot?
5/9 09:25:09.838  Eluminore says: ok, who forgot to bring the fold-out seating?  
5/9 09:25:10.949  Nokota whispers: hello!
5/9 09:25:15.641  [Guild] Computabull: raid is not important for session
5/9 09:25:28.935  [Guild] Profsmith: and is there a protocol for where you sit/stand?
5/9 09:25:42.836  [Guild] Kathianim: friggin cows! :P
5/9 09:25:45.741  Kartuni cheers at Maggiemae!
5/9 09:25:48.375  [Guild] Teilnehmer: can someone invite me to group so i see where u guys are at plz?
5/9 09:25:50.021  Dyonesia dances with Nalgup.
5/9 09:25:50.021  [Guild] Zenoelea: What was the URL for the feed again?
5/9 09:25:53.399  [Guild] Dyonesia: is this it?
5/9 09:25:54.245  [Guild] Scienceagain: moo
5/9 09:25:55.074  Uljasa cheers!
5/9 09:25:55.365  Parnopaeus says: I'll duel!
5/9 09:25:56.070  Babyseal says: I'll duel you, Mar
5/9 09:25:56.347  Noanok whispers: where'd you get that cute little panda?
5/9 09:25:56.597  Khrono has gone offline.
5/9 09:25:56.872  Kartuni says: I am on top of the world!
5/9 09:26:00.558  [Guild] Serne: www.world2worlds.com
5/9 09:26:08.084  [Guild] Zenoelea: Thank you
5/9 09:26:10.289  Geradamas bursts into dance.
5/9 09:26:12.872  Jusdafacs waves at Kartuni.
5/9 09:26:12.874  To Noanok: Collector's edition way back in 2004!
5/9 09:26:12.874  [Guild] Maggiemae: if anyone needs help please ask for a group invite
5/9 09:26:15.937  Araculla moos at Kartuni. Mooooooooooo.
5/9 09:26:17.343  Geradamas winks slyly at Gonzorina.
5/9 09:26:18.654  Geradamas bows before Gonzorina.
5/9 09:26:25.179  [Guild] Computabull: If you need a tabard, I am standing near Catullus who is on his purple bird
5/9 09:26:30.043  [Guild] Artume: is anyone heading over?
5/9 09:26:40.992  Mariadr has defeated Babyseal in a duel
5/9 09:26:41.525  [Guild] Teilnehmer: i need help to get there
5/9 09:26:42.073  Zomboni cheers at Babyseal!
5/9 09:26:45.514  Babyseal says: lol
5/9 09:26:47.173  Mariadr bows before Babyseal.
5/9 09:26:48.403  [Guild] Kathianim: I need the tabard
5/9 09:26:55.487  [Guild] Maggiemae: someone please invite teilnehmer to a group :)
5/9 09:26:56.331  Vicariously has come online.
5/9 09:26:57.135  Noanok whispers: have you been on this guild a while?
5/9 09:26:58.340  Babyseal says: wait. lemme try that again....
5/9 09:27:00.627  Mariadr says: hunters are overpowerved at 10!
5/9 09:27:00.911  Cymbiotic's Mirage is dismissed.
5/9 09:27:04.661  Kartuni tells a joke.
5/9 09:27:05.211  Babyseal says: now that I see you better
5/9 09:27:06.601  Gonzorina's pet begins eating a Tel'Abim Banana.
5/9 09:27:08.219  [Guild] Dyonesia: well so far this is exactly like a rl conference
5/9 09:27:10.232  [Guild] Dyonesia: lol
5/9 09:27:10.804  Babyseal says: ready?
5/9 09:27:14.256  Mariadr says: aye!
5/9 09:27:15.330  [Guild] Idnan: raid 1 full - start another if you want
5/9 09:27:17.296  [Guild] Dyonesia: with the exceptoin of all the dancing
5/9 09:27:26.147  [Guild] Jusdafacs: lol
5/9 09:27:29.658  To Noanok: Just a week or so.  for the conference.  You?
5/9 09:27:29.658  Araculla dances with Kartuni.
5/9 09:27:32.672  [Guild] Eluminore: and the...dueling
5/9 09:27:35.061  [Guild] Profsmith: /w
5/9 09:27:36.068  [Guild] Jusdafacs: rl conferences need more dancing
5/9 09:27:37.182  [Guild] Deaxter: I can summon people who are in the same raid
5/9 09:27:40.567  Réjean has left the raid group.
5/9 09:27:40.968  Noanok whispers: yeah, same
5/9 09:27:41.550  [Guild] Saureus: hehehe
5/9 09:27:41.850  [Guild] Togda: i started another raid pst for invite and help
5/9 09:27:43.197  [Guild] Kathianim: haha
5/9 09:27:44.881  [Guild] Niali: too true
5/9 09:27:47.956  Babyseal has defeated Mariadr in a duel
5/9 09:27:52.730  Idnan bursts into dance.
5/9 09:27:55.891  [Guild] Apophenius: and the coffee and buns
5/9 09:27:56.362  [Guild] Scienceagain: rl conferances need more Dueling!
5/9 09:27:58.390  [Guild] Saureus: rl conferences need more dueling!
5/9 09:28:00.840  [1. General] Tourch: can anyone help with fizzle?
5/9 09:28:01.979  Cplane has defeated Kiliel in a duel
5/9 09:28:02.809  Uljasa has defeated Noanok in a duel
5/9 09:28:03.364  [Guild] Painmanager: ANY RAIDS OPEN to invite Teilnehmer?
5/9 09:28:03.904  [Guild] Maggiemae: if you need help please whisper togda for an invite
5/9 09:28:08.369  Noralore waves.
5/9 09:28:08.585  Ophelie has left the raid group.
5/9 09:28:09.378  [Guild] Grimflower: thanks!!
5/9 09:28:10.494  Noralore waves.
5/9 09:28:13.459  Noralore waves.
5/9 09:28:14.374  Uljasa smiles at Noanok.
5/9 09:28:17.524  Noralore waves.
5/9 09:28:20.586  [Guild] Ybika: any other stragglers at bank we are heading now ;)
5/9 09:28:20.864  Mairen has left the raid group.
5/9 09:28:21.830  Noanok bows before Uljasa.
5/9 09:28:25.163  Gyges bursts into dance.
5/9 09:28:25.727  Uljasa bows before Noanok.
5/9 09:28:35.699  Noanok whispers: did you transfer your character?
5/9 09:28:36.130  Gonzorina says: Hey folks, howz about keeping duels down on the beach to keep noise down?
5/9 09:28:36.371  [Guild] Apophenius: next rl conference should be on a big pile of dirt - lol
5/9 09:28:41.736  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:28:42.291  [Guild] Bormanus: Dueling would improve attendence.
5/9 09:28:44.856  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:28:44.856  [Guild] Kiliel: lol
5/9 09:28:45.225  [Guild] Ophelie: Left the raid group to make room for more in this one.
5/9 09:28:45.525  Zomboni laughs.
5/9 09:28:48.036  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:28:49.971  Uljasa laughs at Noanok.
5/9 09:28:49.973  [Guild] Ybika: anyone there have final coords?
5/9 09:28:51.363  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:28:58.514  Forme has left the raid group.
5/9 09:28:59.184  [Guild] Kathianim: hold on
5/9 09:28:59.184  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:02.597  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:03.121  [Guild] Painmanager: COORDS 57,5
5/9 09:29:04.045  [Guild] Yasura: 56, 4
5/9 09:29:06.115  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:09.112  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:12.390  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:13.784  Encrusted Surf Crawler attempts to run away in fear!
5/9 09:29:14.326  [Guild] Yasura: ish
5/9 09:29:15.522  [Guild] Bowhunk: i
5/9 09:29:15.871  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:19.213  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:22.638  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:25.901  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:29.247  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:30.958  [Guild] Bormanus: I would like to appologize ahead of time, I will have to vanish for a bit at 1:00, to have a surprise party for a departing co-worker.
5/9 09:29:31.245  Irma says: selie's loot
5/9 09:29:31.531  To Noanok: Yeah... and then kind of regretted it.  pricey... at the time I thought, hey $50 for a conference=cheap!
5/9 09:29:32.691  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:36.159  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:36.159  [Guild] Computabull: Any more need tabards?
5/9 09:29:39.307  Mariadr creates Linen Bandage.
5/9 09:29:47.715  [Guild] Slizelina: what is the tabard for?
5/9 09:29:49.657  [Guild] Bormanus: I would love a tabard, please.
5/9 09:29:50.786  Mariadr's Blondie is dismissed.
5/9 09:29:51.416  [Guild] Clarion: which char is leading this session?
5/9 09:29:51.966  [Guild] Apophenius: skinny dipping anyone?
5/9 09:29:56.689  Bowhunk has left the raid group.
5/9 09:29:58.029  Togda welcomes Teilnehmer.
5/9 09:30:02.188  [Guild] Dissimula: a sense of belonging
5/9 09:30:04.859  [Guild] Computabull: Two co-chairs
5/9 09:30:05.139  [Guild] Forme: apophenius, yah !
5/9 09:30:08.654  [Guild] Noralore: this is my kind of conference
5/9 09:30:08.930  Shotokahn has left the raid group.
5/9 09:30:08.937  Cymbiotic gasps at Lack.
5/9 09:30:09.450  Gonzorina says: Conference session 1 is T - 2 minutes according to my clock
5/9 09:30:10.593  Noanok whispers: that's true--I just started this on this server for the conference--not really enjoying the shaman though
5/9 09:30:14.290  [Guild] Rissy: 24 viewers now on www.world2worlds.com
5/9 09:30:17.643  [Guild] Slizelina: i dont have a tabard - so please yes
5/9 09:30:18.488  [Guild] Charolais: Watch our for the crabs!
5/9 09:30:19.324  [Guild] Khatchi: camoflauge
5/9 09:30:23.002  Kebehet has come online.
5/9 09:30:24.624  [Guild] Maggiemae: skinny dipping LOL
5/9 09:30:29.099  [Guild] Maggiemae: and the crabs won't bite
5/9 09:30:34.253  [Guild] Noralore: friends of mine on our Argent Dawn server in Europe are watching
5/9 09:30:34.794  [Guild] Southerncal: If you haven't alerady, put your name in your note field (Social/guild tab). Nice to know who people are.
5/9 09:30:46.680  [Guild] Irma: only the corrupted ones will  :)
5/9 09:30:56.789  Parnopaeus has defeated Babyseal in a duel
5/9 09:31:04.422  [Guild] Asaruludu: I cannot edit my note
5/9 09:31:07.264  [Guild] Apophenius: hey grims going for it
5/9 09:31:10.513  Cloacina receives loot: Battered Chest.
5/9 09:31:30.210  Elywen has come online.
5/9 09:31:30.214  [Guild] Clarion: who are the marked folks?
5/9 09:31:31.614  Gonzorina says: Hey Cloacina, catch Darwin some fish--he's hungry!
5/9 09:31:32.993  [Guild] Mariadr: skinny dipping with the sword is the best
5/9 09:31:34.835  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:31:54.150  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:31:57.161  [Guild] Lack: oh i just marked myself for fun
5/9 09:31:58.859  [Guild] Clarion: I would love to get a log of folks introducing themselves - names and where they are from
5/9 09:32:08.756  Parnopaeus has defeated Babyseal in a duel
5/9 09:32:08.756  [Guild] Lack: but that could be useful
5/9 09:32:17.720  [Guild] Clarion: mark the chairs
5/9 09:32:20.500  [Guild] Mariadr: won't the log be on the wiki?
5/9 09:32:24.530  Passera has gone offline.
5/9 09:32:24.890  [Guild] Apophenius: hows the fishing?
5/9 09:32:25.145  [Guild] Scienceagain: duelers
5/9 09:32:28.036  [Guild] Ophelie: I figured it was presentation co-chairs being marked...
5/9 09:32:35.910  Painmanager yells: FOR SCIENCE!
5/9 09:32:36.487  Catullus has gone offline.
5/9 09:32:37.686  [Guild] Cloacina: great fishing
5/9 09:32:43.466  [Guild] Ophelie: Also? This is possibly the most grammatically correct guild chat I've ever seen.
5/9 09:32:44.923  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:32:51.054  [Guild] Valieria: lol
5/9 09:32:51.333  [Guild] Dissimula: lol
5/9 09:32:53.959  [Guild] Lack: Indeed.
5/9 09:32:54.780  [Guild] Zenoelea: Isn't it great?
5/9 09:32:54.780  Passera has come online.
5/9 09:32:56.413  [Guild] Arathise: zomg no wai
5/9 09:32:56.413  [Guild] Kebehet: haha - agreed, Oph
5/9 09:32:56.693  [Guild] Niali: that is the truth!
5/9 09:32:58.714  [Guild] Thoguht: RP server!
5/9 09:32:59.002  [Guild] Charolais: LOL
5/9 09:33:00.451  [Guild] Ophelie: I love you people.
5/9 09:33:05.414  [Guild] Lack: LAWLS
5/9 09:33:06.511  [Guild] Clarion: I'm Pauline Brutlag and I'm hailing from Stanford University School of Medicine - sitting with Parvati Dev - both from the SUMMIT group
5/9 09:33:06.511  [Guild] Dissimula: buncha n00bs
5/9 09:33:07.334  [Guild] Southerncal:  /braces for Chuck Norris jokes
5/9 09:33:09.660  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:33:10.723  [Guild] Ophelie: lol
5/9 09:33:11.313  [Guild] Serne: ist usjt graet
5/9 09:33:11.317  Kebehet hugs Bormanus.
5/9 09:33:14.375  [Guild] Lightsydor: Yes, I've even heard it said "Laugh Out Loud"
5/9 09:33:14.378  [Guild] Charolais: I just have to say, Chuck Norris FTW.
5/9 09:33:18.884  Kionoto has come online.
5/9 09:33:21.047  [Guild] Clarion: lawl
5/9 09:33:28.564  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:33:40.497  Kathianim receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:33:40.574  Catullus has come online.
5/9 09:33:41.129  [Guild] Deaxter: how do I get the audio channel?
5/9 09:33:45.846  [Raid] Liebenwalde: /tell 
5/9 09:33:53.785  [Guild] Babyseal: Hi, Pauline. I'm David Courard-Hauri, and I'm from Drake University. Environmental Science and Policy
5/9 09:33:57.029  Teilnehmer bursts into dance.
5/9 09:33:57.305  [Guild] Mariadr: ::raking the brains for good Chuck Norris science jokes::
5/9 09:33:57.305  [Guild] Slizelina: there is an audio channel?
5/9 09:34:01.769  Kathianim receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:34:02.189  [Guild] Catullus: no audio
5/9 09:34:06.523  Khrono has come online.
5/9 09:34:09.359  [Guild] Slizelina: okay
5/9 09:34:10.477  [Guild] Gonzorina: I'm John Bohannon / Science magazine
5/9 09:34:12.146  [Guild] Dissimula: Chuck Norris could do this whole conference, all by himself
5/9 09:34:13.337  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:34:14.970  [Guild] Ybika: if you want your offline added to guild notes just give a whisper
5/9 09:34:18.239  [Guild] Catullus: Guild chat for everything. To save it: /chatlog
5/9 09:34:34.238  [Guild] Kaseido: John Carter McKnight, grad student, Arizona State
5/9 09:34:35.882  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:34:39.441  [Guild] Charolais: I am Chris Dondanville; The University of Memphis; Information Systems.  Go Tigers!
5/9 09:34:40.557  [Guild] Cymbiotic: I'm Linda Escher with the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
5/9 09:34:43.649  [Guild] Noralore: Cynthia Haynes, Clemson University
5/9 09:34:43.649  [Guild] Serne: Thomas Chesney, University Of Nottingham
5/9 09:34:48.764  [Guild] Parnopaeus: Lauren Collister, grad student, University of Pittsburgh Department of Linguistics
5/9 09:34:49.602  Boscotore bursts into dance.
5/9 09:34:53.874  [Guild] Computabull: I am Catullus, Blood Elf priest
5/9 09:35:02.478  [Guild] Lack: haha
5/9 09:35:03.357  [Guild] Jakola: My name is Kristin Grønli, from the Norwegian science news site www.forskning.no.
5/9 09:35:03.598  [Guild] Maiidi: Fiona Gallagher - Sun Microsystems
5/9 09:35:09.443  [Guild] Shiyali: I'm Matthew Thomas, Health Sciences Librarian, Queen's University
5/9 09:35:11.958  [Guild] Computabull: just kidding, I'm really Computabull, Tauren shaman
5/9 09:35:12.481  [Guild] Idnan: 6 slots in raid - raid is simply for tracking location - please send message for invite
5/9 09:35:12.769  [Guild] Charolais: It is an RP server ....
5/9 09:35:13.867  [Guild] Nokota: Theresa Horstman, grad student, U of Washington, College of Ed
5/9 09:35:14.905  [Guild] Parnopaeus: I am Spartacus?
5/9 09:35:17.869  [Guild] Niali: Anali Perry, librarian, Arizona State University
5/9 09:35:20.806  [Guild] Grimflower: Katie Fletcher, grad student, Georgia Tech (Digital Media)
5/9 09:35:22.254  Yasura has left the raid group.
5/9 09:35:22.526  [Guild] Kebehet: I'M Spartacus!
5/9 09:35:22.972  [Guild] Saunter: Alan Jamieson, Computer Science, St. Mary's College of Maryland
5/9 09:35:23.251  [Guild] Thoguht: I'm a sneaky bastard, aka Mark Chen U Washington, College of Ed also
5/9 09:35:25.012  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:35:25.958  [Guild] Artume: Laura Christopherson student School of Information & Library Science at UNC Chapel Hill with groovy onlookers
5/9 09:35:26.238  Kathianim receives loot: Battered Chest.
5/9 09:35:26.789  [Guild] Catullus: And I am Catullus, Contemptabull!
5/9 09:35:27.735  [Guild] Perplextar: Giulio Prisco
5/9 09:35:29.930  [Guild] Mariadr: Maria Droujkova, Natural Math
5/9 09:35:32.794  [Guild] Cplane: Jill Kennedy, physics grad student, Arizona State University
5/9 09:35:33.072  [1. General] Tourch: can anyone help with fizzle?
5/9 09:35:34.839  [Guild] Dissimula: I'm a lost soul from another area of Azeroth altogether
5/9 09:35:36.836  [4. terrornova] Kartuni joined channel.
5/9 09:35:37.474  [Guild] Réjean: I'm Réjen Carrière, doc student, University of Ottawa
5/9 09:35:40.145  [Guild] Southerncal: <-Dmitri Williams, USC
5/9 09:35:40.432  [Guild] Uljasa: Steve Thorne, an alliance guy (and linguist), Penn State
5/9 09:35:40.432  [4. terrornova] Kartuni: hey hey
5/9 09:35:40.988  [Guild] Gyges: I'm spartacus
5/9 09:35:41.541  [Guild] Rissy: Kim Smith-World2Worlds aka Rissa Maidstone - Second Life.
5/9 09:35:43.457  [Guild] Kaseido: Whoa, ASU represents!!
5/9 09:35:43.744  Ronaan has come online.
5/9 09:35:45.869  [Guild] Computabull: Bill Bainbridge, NSF
5/9 09:35:45.869  [Guild] Saureus: I'm Anne Bastien, student, University of North Florida
5/9 09:35:47.170  [Guild] Bytola: Lindsay Jamieson, Computer Science, St. Mary's College of Maryland
5/9 09:35:47.581  [Guild] Slizelina: Liz Solo -  second front performance art collective
5/9 09:35:48.618  [Guild] Passera: Beth Denton, student, Northern Illinois University, Special Education
5/9 09:35:49.998  [Guild] Arathise: Kelly Bergstrom, grad student, University of Calgary
5/9 09:35:50.574  [Guild] Amulii: Joshua Stortz physics undergrad
5/9 09:35:50.828  Kathianim receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:35:54.781  [Guild] Deaxter: James Morgan, CADRE Laboratory for New Media
5/9 09:35:56.815  [Guild] Liebenwalde: Henry Lowood, Stanford
5/9 09:35:57.864  [Guild] Cloacina: Pam Broviak, city engineer, city of LaSalle (IL)
5/9 09:36:00.732  [Guild] Profsmith: Richard Smith, Professor of Communication, Simon Fraser University
5/9 09:36:01.195  [Guild] Dissimula: aka Antoinette LaFarge, faculty, UC Irvine
5/9 09:36:02.209  [Guild] Yasura: Yesenia Martinez,student, University of Maryland, Sociology
5/9 09:36:04.263  [Guild] Idnan: Doug Morris, Sociology ABD, Loyola Chicago
5/9 09:36:04.263  [Guild] Dyonesia: Celia Pearce, Georgia Tech Experimental Game Lab
5/9 09:36:07.043  [Guild] Apophenius: Peter Jenkins, doc student York U
5/9 09:36:07.306  [Guild] Einarson: Ken Hay, Indiana Univ Prof
5/9 09:36:08.372  [Guild] Akigain: My name is Matt Sharp, I am a graduate student at Ball State University, Dept of Anthropology
5/9 09:36:10.426  Kathianim receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:36:10.719  [Guild] Noanok: Jon Reinhardt, Southern Connecticut soon to be U of Arizona, applied linguistics
5/9 09:36:13.956  Vicariously has joined the raid group.
5/9 09:36:14.584  [Guild] Adarel: Kristina Swanenburg - graduate student in social psych at U. Pittsburgh
5/9 09:36:15.908  Encrusted Surf Crawler attempts to run away in fear!
5/9 09:36:16.678  [Guild] Jusdafacs: Sylvie Noel, Communications Research Centre of Canada
5/9 09:36:18.355  [Guild] Kartuni: Nic Ducheneaut, Palo Alto Research Center
5/9 09:36:19.299  [Guild] Zomboni: (Thelial): James Brust, Student, University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
5/9 09:36:20.317  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:36:23.147  [Guild] Togda: dimma davidoff, psychologist, boston
5/9 09:36:25.297  [Guild] Zenoelea: Derek Blyler, Federal Reserve Bank and Georgia Tech Alum.
5/9 09:36:28.894  [Guild] Kebehet: Monica Evans, asst. professor in game studies, UTexas Dallas
5/9 09:36:30.668  [Guild] Maggiemae: Bonnie Nardi, professor, University of California, Irvine
5/9 09:36:40.947  Kathianim receives loot: Patchwork Cloak.
5/9 09:36:46.293  [Guild] Ybika: TL Taylor, ITU Copenhagen
5/9 09:36:47.795  Passera has gone offline.
5/9 09:36:49.473  [Guild] Dissimula: actually, I'm not who i say I am, i just picked a name at random
5/9 09:36:50.042  [Guild] Gyges: Greg Lastowka, Rutgers
5/9 09:36:55.520  Dramanite bursts into dance.
5/9 09:36:59.479  [Guild] Eluminore: <-- Raymond Pirouz, designer, author and researcher in training
5/9 09:37:02.318  [Guild] Shugar: Ray op'tLand, grad student, Communications, University of Calgary
5/9 09:37:02.562  [Guild] Geradamas: Noelle Reading, undergraduate at Lawrence University
5/9 09:37:04.341  [Guild] Kaseido: *waves at Gyges*
5/9 09:37:04.592  [Guild] Kultura: Hilde Corneliussen, University of Bergen, Norway
5/9 09:37:06.060  [Guild] Kiliel: Michael Kennedy, digital art major, Univeristy of Advancing Technology
5/9 09:37:08.650  Irma receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:37:17.438  [Guild] Forme: Berkus Bekkers, browniemovement.com
5/9 09:37:18.008  Cloacina receives loot: Battered Chest.
5/9 09:37:21.007  Irma receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:37:24.478  Passera has come online.
5/9 09:37:24.775  Cloacina receives loot: Bolt of Linen Cloth.
5/9 09:37:25.043  [Guild] Painmanager: Victor Vergara, Bachelors/Computer Science, University of Florida
5/9 09:37:26.576  [Guild] Scienceagain: John Bruneau Faculty San Jose State, AI SF - Artist Ars Virtua
5/9 09:37:28.692  Cloacina receives loot: Light Leatherx3.
5/9 09:37:31.544  [Guild] Thoguht: One bonus for having a virtual conf is no one can destroy a whole discipline with one bomb.
5/9 09:37:35.714  [Guild] Kiliel: Arizona
5/9 09:37:38.967  Irma receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:37:39.221  [Guild] Lack: Jay Phillips, civilian, Nashville, TN
5/9 09:37:49.339  Bowhunk creates Light Armor Kit.
5/9 09:37:51.353  Boscotore says: Fizzle is that goblin warlock, if you're still interested.
5/9 09:37:54.014  Bowhunk creates Light Armor Kit.
5/9 09:37:54.018  [Guild] Jusdafacs: a well placed alli raid, though
5/9 09:37:54.592  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:37:55.821  [Guild] Forme: Thoguht: an Alliance  raid would come handy
5/9 09:37:56.111  Irma receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:38:00.000  [Guild] Apophenius: but it keeps us all out of the RW for a while
5/9 09:38:12.176  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:38:13.329  Irma receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:38:19.685  [Guild] Zscheme: Jon Howell, Anatomy and physiology high school teacher, East Valley Institiute of Technology, Az
5/9 09:38:22.311  Tegularius has come online.
5/9 09:38:26.971  [Guild] Shotokahn: Dean "Kodath" Coleman, Richlands, VA, freelance podcaster
5/9 09:38:28.174  Bowhunk creates Light Leather.
5/9 09:38:30.649  Boscotore says: Oh, it wasn't me who asked. I just noticed the question in chat. 
5/9 09:38:32.929  Vicariously's Sidekick is dismissed.
5/9 09:38:33.411  Bowhunk creates Light Leather.
5/9 09:38:36.694  [Guild] Teilnehmer: Jana Diesner, Computer Science, CMU, linguist and comp scientist
5/9 09:38:38.291  [Guild] Dissimula: I'm actually using someone else's login... and I'll bet I'm not the only one
5/9 09:38:38.295  Cloacina receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:38:38.295  Irma receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:38:43.897  Khatchi lies down.
5/9 09:38:46.246  [Guild] Niali: lots of 'Zonies!
5/9 09:38:52.107  [Guild] Kathianim: I'll just say I'm an undergrad at WVU
5/9 09:38:52.364  Irma receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:39:01.232  [Guild] Idnan: go eers
5/9 09:39:04.031  [Guild] Kaseido: seriously, Niali!
5/9 09:39:08.437  Bowhunk creates Handstitched Leather Cloak.
5/9 09:39:10.663  Irma receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 09:39:11.240  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok everyone please "be quiet" lol -- we are going to start!!!
5/9 09:39:17.985  [Guild] Aquaregia: Goldie Katsu, Katsu Productions (new media and virtual world works), Boulder CO
5/9 09:40:00.621  [Guild] Maggiemae: Welcome everyone! This is Session One in which we discuss research on World of Warcraft.  I am  Bonnie Nardi, or Maggiemae, if you prefer. I'm a faculty member at the University of California, Irvine. My co-chair is Hilde Corneliussen, or Kultura.
5/9 09:40:02.292  Bowhunk waves at Artume.
5/9 09:40:07.007  [Guild] Kultura: Thanks Bonnie. I'm associate professor  at University of Bergen, Norway.
5/9 09:40:07.603  Artume waves at Bowhunk.
5/9 09:40:15.118  [Guild] Kultura: We have the pleasure of welcoming the panel: 
5/9 09:40:15.118  [Guild] Kultura: Celia Pearce as Dyonesia, 
5/9 09:40:15.118  [Guild] Kultura: Nic Ducheneaut Kartuni, 
5/9 09:40:15.118  [Guild] Kultura: T L Taylor as Ybika
5/9 09:40:18.421  Gonzorina claps excitedly.
5/9 09:40:22.338  Clarion claps excitedly.
5/9 09:40:25.964  [Guild] Maggiemae: The panelists will answer questions. If you have a brief comment, whisper me  and we will call on you.
5/9 09:40:25.964  [Guild] Maggiemae: Near the end of the session we will have questions and comments from the audience.
5/9 09:40:25.964  [Guild] Maggiemae: And then researchers can mention their work.
5/9 09:40:27.644  Teilnehmer applauds.  Bravo!
5/9 09:40:42.017  Dissimula cheers!
5/9 09:40:44.032  Telmura has come online.
5/9 09:40:44.862  [Guild] Maggiemae: alrighty, Question One coming up!
5/9 09:40:46.741  [Guild] Maggiemae: QUESTION: Some researchers have claimed that WoW (and other MMOGs) can be used as a laboratory for studying human behavior. What do you think about this? 
5/9 09:41:07.578  [Guild] Computabull: .chatlog
5/9 09:41:13.243  Togda cheers!
5/9 09:41:13.791  [Guild] Kartuni: I think it's true depending on the particular type of behavior you're interested in.
5/9 09:41:20.139  [Guild] Kartuni: In my own work for instance I'm interested in the dynamics of social networks, and guilds are a perfectly valid laboratory to observe these networks -
5/9 09:41:26.893  [Guild] Kartuni: they are not that different from groups in the physical world like clubs, sports teams, or even workgroups in organizations with fairly well-defined goals.
5/9 09:41:34.307  [Guild] Kartuni: Generalizing a bit, anything that has to do with collaboration and group organization can probably be studied with high validity in WoW.
5/9 09:41:41.078  [Guild] Kartuni: The economy is another interesting domain, as I'm sure Ted Castronova would tell you if he were here.
5/9 09:41:46.704  Dixonrc has come online.
5/9 09:41:53.137  [Guild] Kartuni: For that WoW is interesting less because of its similarities with the physical world and more for its differences -it lets economists put some long-held assumptions to the test.
5/9 09:42:04.462  Parnopaeus's Lykegenes is dismissed.
5/9 09:42:21.221  [Guild] Maggiemae: a bit of typing going on :D
5/9 09:42:28.213  [Guild] Mariadr: WoW can be used to study human behavior in virtual worlds. Transfer to meatspace is problematic.
5/9 09:42:31.356  [Guild] Ybika: i think we have to be careful though to make sure we are dealing with the ludological aspects of the space and watchign for when the comparisons make sense
5/9 09:42:47.712  [Guild] Dyonesia: a folow up to TL
5/9 09:42:57.533  [Guild] Forme: Now the caveat - follow chatter of 150 typing fellows.
5/9 09:42:58.990  [Guild] Dyonesia: I have found that play-driven behavior is quite a bit different
5/9 09:43:06.115  [Guild] Dyonesia: from behavior in other arenas
5/9 09:43:22.878  Hyyacinth has come online.
5/9 09:43:43.898  Artume dances with Bowhunk.
5/9 09:43:45.749  [Guild] Ybika: by ludological i mean in particular a care for how the game qualities of the space shape interactions, behaviors etc. for how also the game ui may shape them
5/9 09:43:53.021  [Guild] Mariadr: Right-click on the "general" tab above your chat and select "unlock window" to drag it to a larger size
5/9 09:43:58.341  [Guild] Ybika: this potentially complicates one to one coorelations
5/9 09:44:15.096  [Guild] Forme: also choose dark non-transparent background t
5/9 09:44:16.536  [Guild] Ybika: (heh spelling)
5/9 09:44:21.816  [Guild] Forme: there, it helps reading )
5/9 09:44:31.814  [Guild] Maggiemae: if you have a comment or question on the panelists answer, please whisper me
5/9 09:44:51.370  Geradamas has left the raid group.
5/9 09:44:54.690  [Guild] Dyonesia: so a follow up to TL
5/9 09:45:02.089  Passera has left the raid group.
5/9 09:45:18.408  [Guild] Dyonesia: I would hesitate to draw too many generalizations about broader behavior patterns from games and virrtual worlds because
5/9 09:45:31.264  [Guild] Dyonesia: of the unique qualities of play in terms of promoting emergent behavior
5/9 09:45:47.702  [Guild] Dyonesia: we can't really extrapoloate from what people do in a play space into "real life"
5/9 09:46:10.451  [Guild] Maggiemae: i will get on my mount in case you want to target me for whispers
5/9 09:46:15.300  Irma's pet begins eating a Tough Jerky.
5/9 09:46:30.590  [Guild] Maggiemae: we have a question from the audience coming up
5/9 09:46:47.435  [Guild] Kebehet: I have a question about economic research in virtual worlds:
5/9 09:47:01.268  [Guild] Lightsydor: A variety of personality types though do become evident in group undertakings.
5/9 09:47:05.103  [Guild] Kebehet: Essentially, what about worlds that treat their economies very differently - WOW vs. EVE Online, for example
5/9 09:47:11.561  [Guild] Computabull: If there is a clear place called, "real life." Many social scientists have written about multiple realities, subcultures, provinces of meaning.
5/9 09:47:12.950  [Guild] Kebehet: How do we deal with cross-platform research?
5/9 09:47:43.750  [Guild] Artume: what do u mean about cross-platform? i use a Mac - its not that diff from a pc where the game is concerned
5/9 09:47:47.835  Khrono bursts into dance.
5/9 09:47:52.958  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok we have lots of good questions, some we will save for later in the session
5/9 09:47:53.765  [Guild] Kebehet: I mean research across different game worlds
5/9 09:47:59.484  Khrono bursts into dance.
5/9 09:47:59.894  Sprye has come online.
5/9 09:48:01.153  [Guild] Kebehet: not system diff's
5/9 09:48:05.450  [Guild] Artume: ah!!
5/9 09:48:06.881  [Guild] Computabull: What goes on in a church, school room, or battlefield may be as unreal as what happens here.
5/9 09:48:21.860  [Guild] Kaseido: *applauds Computabull*
5/9 09:48:40.099  [Guild] Akigain: could you elaborate computabull?
5/9 09:48:40.815  [1. General] Remjin: Where is science at?
5/9 09:48:51.207  [Guild] Charolais: True, not "physical" but still real.
5/9 09:48:51.213  Boscotore says: orgrimmar
5/9 09:48:54.530  [Guild] Artume: well there are many theorists that would define "real" as not "actual" but still valid - Levy, DeLeuze,others
5/9 09:48:58.582  [1. General] Khatchi: Bladefist Bay
5/9 09:49:00.081  [1. General] Kiliel: 56-4
5/9 09:49:01.461  [Guild] Computabull: Not to mention the White House, except that the games played there have dire consequences.
5/9 09:49:01.550  [1. General] Demonshaman: in the science department lol
5/9 09:49:07.643  [Guild] Dyonesia: i'm gong to jump in here since all this has to do with what I just said
5/9 09:49:09.607  [1. General] Forme: we're in bladefist bay, 57,4 coords
5/9 09:49:09.890  [Guild] Kartuni: lol
5/9 09:49:11.062  Gonzorina nods at Maggiemae.
5/9 09:49:14.103  [Guild] Dyonesia: although i really would like to respect the moderator
5/9 09:49:28.273  [Guild] Dyonesia: I am saying real life as an abreviation for "things other than play"
5/9 09:49:28.273  Trickshot has come online.
5/9 09:49:33.330  [1. General] Dissimula: General
5/9 09:49:37.635  [Guild] Dyonesia: and I think we can correlate play actvities that do not take place online
5/9 09:49:43.822  Araculla applauds.  Bravo!
5/9 09:49:47.246  [Guild] Dyonesia: but this whole real life/vs. play thing is a three our discussion
5/9 09:49:55.186  Telmura has gone offline.
5/9 09:50:00.005  [Guild] Dyonesia: My point is that the frame of "play" affects people's behavior in a unique way
5/9 09:50:01.188  [1. General] Dissimula: just up the coast from Orgrimmar
5/9 09:50:05.510  [Guild] Kaseido: yes, but how can you justify the "wirtual worlds=play" mapping?
5/9 09:50:19.902  Artume agrees with Dyonesia.
5/9 09:50:28.094  [Guild] Charolais: What about non-game virtual worlds?
5/9 09:50:28.914  [Guild] Computabull: How ism play different from the status games that take place in universities, political parties, or the boardrooms of corporations?
5/9 09:50:31.617  [Guild] Aquaregia: I think that there are two factors that may change behaviors. 1) The perception that this is play and nto real, and 2) the pseudoanonomysness/intemediation of the communication medium that 
5/9 09:50:34.953  [Guild] Kartuni: don't you think some people are as serious about playing WoW as they are with other activities though?
5/9 09:50:37.840  [Guild] Forme: you probably can't
5/9 09:50:38.136  [Guild] Irma: many people compare raiding to having a job
5/9 09:50:41.131  Plasmidia dances with Gonzorina.
5/9 09:50:45.112  [Guild] Forme: Second Life is not much about play.
5/9 09:50:51.010  [Guild] Ybika: just to say one quick thign about the multiplatform issue
5/9 09:50:53.284  [Guild] Forme: it's erm.. life
5/9 09:50:54.735  Boscotore's pet begins eating a Shiny Red Apple.
5/9 09:50:55.590  [Guild] Ybika: err, multigame issue
5/9 09:50:55.879  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK lots of good comments but we are going to move to Question Two!! thanks everyone nfor the great discussion
5/9 09:51:03.600  [Guild] Maggiemae: QUESTION: What are some advantages of quantitative research in World of Warcraft?
5/9 09:51:14.040  [Guild] Ybika: i think it is very important that we recognize the specificity of worlds and be cautious about grand mmog theories just yet
5/9 09:51:20.350  [Guild] Southerncal: Let's give Lessig his due. Certainly social contexts differ from space to space, but in VWs there are code-based limitations and affordances that aren't always obvious, but have a lot of power over behaviors.
5/9 09:51:23.800  [Guild] Trickshot: hi, it is important to know who is embracing the technology
5/9 09:51:27.749  [Guild] Artume: yes WoW play can be very SERIOUS and work-like
5/9 09:51:31.070  You are now AFK: Away from Keyboard
5/9 09:51:38.539  [Guild] Aquaregia: Perception of the person will influence the behavior. 
5/9 09:51:40.031  [1. General] Zomgscience: zomg wow is serious and worklike
5/9 09:51:55.976  [Guild] Maggiemae: all, please let panelists speak first
5/9 09:51:57.325  [1. General] Boscotore: You got that right. ;)
5/9 09:52:25.573  Khatchi's pet begins eating a Barbecued Buzzard Wing.
5/9 09:52:25.862  You are no longer AFK.
5/9 09:52:25.872  [1. General] Zomgscience: You expect to control all of the non-conference people to respect conference rulesS?
5/9 09:52:31.704  [Guild] Mariadr: I think virtual worlds, being completely made out of representations, are easier to capture in their entirety (you capture text, sound and video and you have captured EVERYTHING)
5/9 09:52:49.182  [Guild] Kartuni: Maggie, is your questions really "what properties of WoW make it particularly attractive to quantitative researchers"?
5/9 09:52:56.577  [1. General] Lightsydor: of course not... they can just dump general :-)
5/9 09:52:56.976  [Guild] Kartuni: I don't really want to get into "Quant research in WoW is better than qual because..." ;-)
5/9 09:52:58.063  [Guild] Aquaregia: My question is how do virtual worlds make this different from say...irc or twitter.
5/9 09:52:58.342  [Guild] Maggiemae: yes!
5/9 09:53:01.888  [Guild] Kartuni: ok
5/9 09:53:07.707  [Guild] Maggiemae: no just something about its utility
5/9 09:53:09.814  [Guild] Kartuni: So, two words to summarize why WoW is so great for quantitative research: scale and access.
5/9 09:53:19.988  [Guild] Kartuni: WoW lets you study interactions between tens of thousands of players connected *simultaneously* to the same online community, over a very long period of time (the game's been out for almost 4 years now).
5/9 09:53:26.449  Kyrsson has come online.
5/9 09:53:31.126  [Guild] Kartuni: Previous online communities did not offer that: I mean, Usenet was very large for instance, but asynchronous and fragmented into many topic-centered subgroups.
5/9 09:53:39.006  [Guild] Kartuni: IRC-based groups were real-time but quite small. Etc.
5/9 09:53:48.362  [Guild] Kartuni: And Blizzard's decision to open their user interface for programming makes it fairly straightforward to extract data out of the game, automatically or not.
5/9 09:53:55.882  [Guild] Kartuni: This combination of scale and access is a goldmine for a quantitative scientist.
5/9 09:54:08.746  [Guild] Aquaregia: So real time is part of the difference, and scale?
5/9 09:54:14.799  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok on to next question!
5/9 09:54:15.971  [Guild] Maggiemae: QUESTION: What are some advantages of qualitative research in WoW?
5/9 09:54:16.812  [Guild] Kartuni: and longevity, yes
5/9 09:54:23.233  [Guild] Thoguht: The people in the community seem to change over time, though..   I'd say.
5/9 09:54:28.718  [Guild] Computabull: Real time, but also interactions over time.
5/9 09:54:51.751  Aquaregia nods
5/9 09:54:58.287  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK, Tegularius has a comment, go plz Teg
5/9 09:55:13.273  [Guild] Kartuni: good point Kvin
5/9 09:55:15.987  [Guild] Forme: Kartuni: even more so in EVE, there are 40+k people connected at once and nearly real economics
5/9 09:55:16.706  [Guild] Kartuni: totally agree
5/9 09:55:17.601  [Guild] Tegularius: Re: quantitative research
5/9 09:55:18.988  [Guild] Maggiemae: please use guild chat 
5/9 09:55:19.589  [1. General] Thoguht: tho, damn I've been here for 4 years already??
5/9 09:55:32.186  Getfunked has gone offline.
5/9 09:55:36.105  [Guild] Tegularius: we shouldn't forget that the existence of replicates, induced by servers, is particularly attractive
5/9 09:55:46.221  [Guild] Kartuni: Forme: I've always thought doing some data collection in EVE would ber real fun
5/9 09:55:48.625  [Guild] Computabull: rguably something like a culture emerges in WoW, which strengthens the validity of research methods that do not use large random samples.
5/9 09:55:52.980  Keath has come online.
5/9 09:55:54.619  [Guild] Deaxter: replicates?
5/9 09:56:03.699  [Guild] Tegularius: bringing the quantitative methodology much closer to, say, the natural sciences
5/9 09:56:21.554  Zomgscience says: I like turtles
5/9 09:56:31.694  Parnopaeus agrees with Computabull.
5/9 09:56:39.208  [Guild] Dyonesia: I'd like to adress the qualititave issue
5/9 09:56:44.722  [Guild] Dyonesia: I have been doing a little bit of both
5/9 09:56:48.451  [Guild] Aquaregia: guild interactions do replicate a social structure (or can.)
5/9 09:56:49.292  [Guild] Computabull: You mean, for example, comparing PvP versus normal servers, or comparing across many realms of the same type.
5/9 09:56:50.466  [Guild] Maggiemae: after Dyonesia's comment clarion has a question
5/9 09:56:56.728  [Guild] Tegularius: Yes
5/9 09:57:03.258  [Guild] Aquaregia: Joi Ito's talk at LeWeb3 last year on this was quite interesting.
5/9 09:57:17.675  [Guild] Maggiemae: go Clarion plz
5/9 09:57:19.053  [Guild] Tegularius: There are a staggeringly large number of world features held constant 
5/9 09:57:22.425  Zomgscience bursts into dance.
5/9 09:57:26.718  [Guild] Forme: Kartuni it might be more pain than fun at first :P
5/9 09:57:31.659  [Guild] Clarion: So - what sorts of qualitative research would one do in WOW?
5/9 09:57:36.495  [Guild] Kartuni: (we have some data about the diff b/w PvP and non-PvP servers and they're less important than you may think)
5/9 09:57:39.907  [Guild] Clarion: Quantitative I can see - but qualitative?
5/9 09:57:53.225  [Guild] Maggiemae: '
5/9 09:57:57.753  [Guild] Dyonesia: well wed do a lot of ethnographic research in games
5/9 09:58:07.558  [Guild] Dyonesia: this is a very common method for games and virtual worlds research
5/9 09:58:17.734  [Guild] Dyonesia: and i think there is a whole discourse developing about how best to do this
5/9 09:58:22.403  [Guild] Forme: Dyonesia, colleting folklore of far out kobold tribes? :)
5/9 09:58:28.766  [Guild] Kartuni: hehe!
5/9 09:58:36.555  [Guild] Dyonesia: Yes, exactly actually my research with the Uru diaspora
5/9 09:58:38.112  [Guild] Apophenius: /w    
5/9 09:58:38.937  [Guild] Ybika: ;)
5/9 09:58:40.540  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK Lieben has a question
5/9 09:58:40.821  [Guild] Dyonesia: is very much a folkore project
5/9 09:58:50.463  [Guild] Computabull: WoW is a good place for radical RP participant observation, where you really get into a character and feel it's experiences.  That's some of what I'm doing for my book.
5/9 09:58:53.140  [Guild] Liebenwalde: quick comment -- another area of  qualitative research
5/9 09:58:57.236  [Guild] Liebenwalde: is historical research
5/9 09:59:03.601  [Guild] Liebenwalde: about what happens in the world
5/9 09:59:05.751  [Guild] Dyonesia: So the point I wanted to make is that
5/9 09:59:09.337  Hyyacinth waves at Ventres.
5/9 09:59:14.439  [Guild] Dyonesia: when we want to study the way cultures are constructed over time
5/9 09:59:21.155  [Guild] Dyonesia: qualitative research is particularly good for this
5/9 09:59:33.637  [Guild] Dyonesia: ethnography in particular because it looks at the social system holistically
5/9 09:59:37.815  Araculla dances with Kierkegaard.
5/9 09:59:42.978  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok how about Lieben's question?
5/9 09:59:56.339  [Guild] Kartuni: (WoW's interface is in some sense a mini ethnographer toolbox: you can take screenshots easily, and the logs of your interactions can be saved automatically.)
5/9 10:00:08.177  [Guild] Dyonesia: well i wonder what you mean by "historical research"?
5/9 10:00:11.739  [Guild] Kartuni: (So it's really easy to document the qualitative life of the group you are immersed in, which lets you focus more on what matters: observing.)
5/9 10:00:20.277  [Guild] Dyonesia: Typically historical research convers past events
5/9 10:00:23.325  Zomgscience says: can I get 2g for spells and armor?
5/9 10:00:33.071  [Guild] Liebenwalde: i guess my question was: do you consider the events and actions in the world to be significant, or is it just a lab?
5/9 10:00:40.242  Gizsela has come online.
5/9 10:00:44.014  [Guild] Ybika: liebenwalde makes a great point about documenting the history and practices of these spaces
5/9 10:00:48.692  [Guild] Dyonesia: Yes of course...I think there is a process of social constructon taking place here
5/9 10:00:52.051  [Guild] Dyonesia: and in other virtual worlds
5/9 10:01:12.768  [Guild] Dyonesia: people are involved in bulding cultures on top of "entertainment products"
5/9 10:01:13.018  [Guild] Ybika: as an ethnographer, those angles are key for me that is for sure
5/9 10:01:25.919  [Guild] Aquaregia: In what way do you study the ethnography?
5/9 10:01:33.437  [Guild] Computabull: It is possible that we may in WoW observe the gradual emergence of post-modern ethics, relavant to a real world that may possibly become more and more like Azeroth, in which groups compete over insufficient resources.
5/9 10:01:34.995  Gonzorina's pet begins eating a Tel'Abim Banana.
5/9 10:01:43.932  [Guild] Dyonesia: The main method of ethnography is participant observation
5/9 10:01:53.701  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok next question!!! as time is short
5/9 10:01:56.768  [Guild] Maggiemae: QUESTION: How does the multi-cultural playerbase affect WoW play?
5/9 10:02:00.450  [Guild] Aquaregia: And the participants are an ethinic group as a whole?
5/9 10:02:02.205  [Guild] Computabull: Not necessarily.  Malinowski did not do PO.
5/9 10:02:16.557  [Guild] Dyonesia: Just to be clear I said ETHNOGRAPPHY not ETHNOLOGY 
5/9 10:02:20.823  [Guild] Dyonesia: those are two very different things
5/9 10:02:30.137  [Guild] Aquaregia: Ahh thank you.
5/9 10:02:32.115  Boscotore waves.
5/9 10:02:34.641  [Guild] Computabull: Classical antrho ethnography relied heavily upon outsider observation, and native informants.
5/9 10:02:38.568  [Guild] Dyonesia: ethnography is an approach to qualitative research, ethnology is the study of ethnicities
5/9 10:03:15.900  [Guild] Computabull: Ethnology is the comparison of multiple cultures, whether qualitative or quantitative.
5/9 10:03:19.807  Trickshot's pet begins eating a Roasted Quail.
5/9 10:03:21.932  [1. General] Thoguht: There have been some ethnologies though, too...
5/9 10:03:30.611  Kaseido's pet begins eating a Haunch of Meat.
5/9 10:03:35.164  Kaseido's pet begins eating a Haunch of Meat.
5/9 10:03:39.106  [Guild] Dyonesia: yes thank you Bill that's a more accurate definition
5/9 10:03:51.423  Zomgscience bursts into dance.
5/9 10:03:53.716  [Guild] Lack: i think an interesting point might be the effect of the culture, once established,  on the game world itself.
5/9 10:03:54.004  [Guild] Aquaregia: Thank you.
5/9 10:04:00.146  [Guild] Uljasa: WoW used to be much more multi-lingual and intercultural -- now that servers are nation state/lang specific, player populations have become much more homogeneous
5/9 10:04:01.776  [Guild] Kartuni: regarding the question about multinational issues, that makes me think of the now infamous "Chinese goldfarmer" stereotype
5/9 10:04:10.523  [Guild] Teilnehmer: i have a question about data: (how) can people gain access to or collect WoW data legally?
5/9 10:04:20.851  [Guild] Kartuni: That led to some pretty disturbing events where Chinese players were specifically targeted for harassment by others.
5/9 10:04:21.418  [Guild] Maggiemae: let's stay with the current question please
5/9 10:04:35.366  [Guild] Kartuni: Documenting and analyzing events like these could help us understand how players from different cultures can share the same virtual world and how tensions arise (and how they can be defused).
5/9 10:04:47.945  [Guild] Kartuni: Another possibility would be to do comparative analysis of behaviors between Asian and European and American servers.
5/9 10:04:57.042  [Guild] Kartuni: This is not totally bullet-proof since it's reasonably straightforward to get an account on a foreign server but still,
5/9 10:05:03.645  [Guild] Kartuni: we can probably assume that the majority of players on a given server belong to the designated continent.
5/9 10:05:09.977  [Guild] Trickshot: There is also a bigger question of economics that has been approached in some literature, but requires further study
5/9 10:05:10.814  [Guild] Kartuni: This opens up the door to all sorts of interesting analyses - for instance, I'd love to see if and how guilds are organized differently across these servers.
5/9 10:05:25.638  [Guild] Akigain: agreed
5/9 10:05:30.676  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok next question!
5/9 10:05:32.332  [Guild] Maggiemae: QUESTION: How does WoW-culture affect offline-culture?  
5/9 10:05:36.141  [Guild] Dissimula: one thing noticeable in wow is a dominant, aggressive type of player/culture on the chat channels that does not represent the wow player base as a whole
5/9 10:05:45.563  [Guild] Computabull: I've been in about 20 guilds, and they differ tremendously!
5/9 10:05:54.929  [Guild] Apophenius: has anyone done ethnohraphic research on players in cyber cafes to see how they react with eachother in RW 
5/9 10:06:05.214  [Guild] Geradamas: I have to state the obvious -- language. 
5/9 10:06:11.798  Aquaregia whispers: I'd love to here more about ethnologies - can you join the guild chat?
5/9 10:06:25.444  [Guild] Dyonesia: Yes actually Bonnie has done cyberdafe research
5/9 10:06:28.088  Parnopaeus nods at Geradamas.
5/9 10:06:36.007  [Guild] Dyonesia: Bonnie do you want to talk about that it's actually quite interesting
5/9 10:06:40.141  [Guild] Geradamas: "pwnt" "noob" "w00t" I hear these out of the mouths of non-gamers and I blame the prolferation on WoW. :)
5/9 10:06:40.392  [Guild] Maggiemae: yes i studied WoW in China last sumer
5/9 10:06:42.010  [Guild] Scienceagain: have you heard of the fuckwad theory of aninimity?
5/9 10:06:44.520  [Guild] Gizsela: Another question is how the age of the players comes into the game-world developement.
5/9 10:06:56.389  Ventres has joined the guild.
5/9 10:07:07.645  [Guild] Jusdafacs: there is a lot of ageism in world chat
5/9 10:07:10.170  [Guild] Computabull: 101 members online!
5/9 10:07:15.133  [Guild] Artume: one of my arena partners is from Chile - so we have the Wow lang and the Spanish/English thing to content with
5/9 10:07:20.240  [Guild] Profsmith: /w
5/9 10:07:27.867  [Guild] Aquaregia: Language is a big factor and conceptual transfers.
5/9 10:07:35.871  [Guild] Forme: wow-culture merges into offline culture
5/9 10:07:38.780  Zomgscience says: i speak orc language
5/9 10:07:43.581  [Guild] Mariadr: Game metaphors, such as "wipe" or "grind", get into other parts of life
5/9 10:07:43.865  [Guild] Artume: he chose to join our English server to improve his English
5/9 10:07:44.869  [Guild] Aquaregia: exactly
5/9 10:07:49.942  [Guild] Forme: so goes the other way around, but to a less degree
5/9 10:07:53.857  [Guild] Maggiemae: in china wow is not "virtual" because ppl are sitting together, drinking, smoking, talking
5/9 10:07:57.187  [Guild] Réjean: What about the Chuck Norris jokes :)
5/9 10:07:58.042  [Guild] Artume: so we expalin idioms AND WoWspeak
5/9 10:08:02.420  [Guild] Kartuni: if you dont think WoW affects offline culture, just watch the Toyota Tacoma ad :))
5/9 10:08:12.472  [Guild] Dyonesia: i'd like to suggest you guys listen to Bonnie she has done some research about precisely this issue
5/9 10:08:12.921  [Guild] Artume: i luv that commercial - hehe
5/9 10:08:14.086  Yasura laughs at Zomgscience.
5/9 10:08:17.751  [Guild] Maggiemae: and players like pvp and find pve boring, so culture does play a role
5/9 10:08:18.281  Zomgscience says: Once, Chuck Norris sneezed, and the goblin race was created.
5/9 10:08:19.708  [Guild] Aquaregia: Or the coke ad
5/9 10:08:25.192  [Guild] Uljasa: on Youtube -- there are lots of RL video within a WoW interface frame -- very creative appropriation of WoW transposed into live video
5/9 10:08:30.823  [Guild] Trickshot: Or the whole Murlac thing??? What is up with that????
5/9 10:08:33.254  To Aquaregia: sorry, went to get some food.
5/9 10:08:34.646  Wohitika has come online.
5/9 10:08:42.089  [Guild] Khatchi: Blizzcon
5/9 10:08:42.974  [Guild] Computabull: WoW is preparing the warriors of the future, who will be operating robots, the way Predators in the middle east are operated from Nebraska.
5/9 10:08:55.436  Dixonrc says: 1
5/9 10:09:06.160  Aquaregia whispers: No problem.  :)
5/9 10:09:06.734  [Guild] Apophenius: yes in china the players seem to inhabit two intersecting magic circles simulataneously
5/9 10:09:08.133  [Guild] Forme: and WOW has a nice control interface for operating these robots already
5/9 10:09:27.907  [Guild] Kultura: Next question
5/9 10:09:27.915  [Guild] Kaseido: and seems to be a terrific tool for teaching small-unit tactics
5/9 10:09:28.450  To Aquaregia: There's a person at Utah who looked at avatar choice and tried to link it to realworld ethnicities I think
5/9 10:09:31.114  [Guild] Kultura: QUESTION  What important areas need to be explored in studying World of Warcraft?
5/9 10:09:32.566  [Guild] Mariadr: "Ender's Game"?
5/9 10:09:37.958  [Guild] Forme: reminds me of one early-90s movie where wars were settled via fights in a giant human-operated robots
5/9 10:09:39.614  [Guild] Kaseido: *nods*
5/9 10:09:47.644  [Guild] Computabull: The raid communication system is similar to taht of the Army tank corp, Professor Quek at Virginia Tech pointed out to me.
5/9 10:09:54.063  [Guild] Trickshot: Robot Jox? Yuck
5/9 10:09:58.992  [Guild] Gizsela: but I think Wow is much less toxic in that respect than other true shoot 'em up games like grand theft etc
5/9 10:10:07.636  [Guild] Maggiemae: *agrees*
5/9 10:10:07.854  [Guild] Kartuni: I think the relationship between WoW and a player's "physical" life is still under-studied - so the stuff Bonnie was talking about is important imho
5/9 10:10:13.738  Maiidi has gone offline.
5/9 10:10:19.778  Zomgscience says: Oh, yeah, WoW totally is less toxic. There's SO much less possibility of disruption
5/9 10:10:23.931  [Guild] Charolais: reeves, malone and driscoll in HBR talked about guild leadership traits affecting management leadership traits.
5/9 10:10:24.180  [Guild] Artume: yeah, that blending is fascinating
5/9 10:10:24.472  Aquaregia whispers: I was thinking about that and wondered how much "overlay" race affects the nature of the resource.  I mean I associate with Tauren as this character but I've not been raised taurent etc.
5/9 10:10:29.280  [Guild] Forme: Kultura: i think Un'goro crater needs to be explored more throughly :P
5/9 10:10:34.746  [Guild] Kartuni: lolo!
5/9 10:10:37.624  [Guild] Kartuni: *lol
5/9 10:10:42.237  [Guild] Maggiemae: LOL i love un'goro crater
5/9 10:10:44.633  Dixonrc says: 1
5/9 10:10:46.557  [Guild] Kultura: hehe
5/9 10:10:59.257  [Guild] Gyges: /t
5/9 10:10:59.837  [Guild] Dyonesia: Well one thing that is missing frm most of the resarch
5/9 10:11:06.348  [Guild] Dyonesia: is understanding the culture of game creation
5/9 10:11:13.872  [Guild] Artume: ewwww un'goro
5/9 10:11:14.429  [Guild] Akigain: i think how social capital is generated needs more research
5/9 10:11:21.238  [Guild] Dyonesia: We sort of take it for granted that this world is here, but
5/9 10:11:26.069  [Guild] Dissimula: i think more work should be done on ways players work the game outside of the normative modes of questing/raiding
5/9 10:11:26.928  [Guild] Dyonesia: who made it this way, and who decided it should be this way?
5/9 10:11:28.855  [Guild] Dyonesia: And why?
5/9 10:11:29.164  [Guild] Thoguht: Casey ODonnell is doing some of that.
5/9 10:11:39.225  [Guild] Gzzomg: Castronova exercises that very thoroughly.
5/9 10:11:43.016  [Guild] Trickshot: And why this world never truly changes....
5/9 10:11:50.426  [Guild] Charolais: Or the relationship between inhabitants and the coding authority.
5/9 10:11:55.564  [Guild] Dyonesia: So to me this is a vital question that is really under-studied, but it's a hard one since the companies are reluctant to pull back the curtain and let us in
5/9 10:11:57.324  [Guild] Kartuni: yes Dyonesia, and it's quite obvious some of the designers had some "interesting" ideas about race for instance.....
5/9 10:12:02.528  [Guild] Apophenius: why are VWs essentially zero growth economies?
5/9 10:12:11.476  [Guild] Artume: oh see, i think the world is constantly changing via the social construction of it
5/9 10:12:22.518  [Guild] Dyonesia: Exaclty and the game mechanic itself has a number of underlying values and assumptions built into it
5/9 10:12:26.257  [Guild] Thoguht: It's still possible to be critical consumers though
5/9 10:12:27.081  [Guild] Aquaregia: Ah but the physical construct is a slow evolution.
5/9 10:12:28.490  [Guild] Kultura: Noralore has a comment
5/9 10:12:31.452  [Guild] Dyonesia: that influence emergent behavior and social constructon
5/9 10:12:36.419  Dixonrc says: a
5/9 10:12:41.533  [Guild] Geradamas: Dissimula have you played on Moon Guard?
5/9 10:12:44.297  [Guild] Dyonesia: including the fact that only 10-20 of players for instance are female
5/9 10:13:03.765  [Guild] Dyonesia: an issue which is addressed obliquely but I dont; beelive problematized enough
5/9 10:13:08.145  [Guild] Southerncal: 20% by my latest data
5/9 10:13:12.144  [Guild] Geradamas: re: subverting "what you're supposed to do" some RP guilds have gone back and are seriously doing level 60 content for RP reasons (the Ashbringer)
5/9 10:13:12.150  [Guild] Jusdafacs: are those official numbers, Dyonesia?
5/9 10:13:18.588  [Guild] Noralore: I think interesting political dynamics, such as the divided city of Shattrath, are ripe for studying how warring factions can mediate conflict
5/9 10:13:21.481  [Guild] Forme: Dyonesia: it's an interesting question of god intervention. do we consider game designers gods?
5/9 10:13:22.577  [Guild] Slizelina: almost 50% in second life
5/9 10:13:23.037  [Guild] Dyonesia: There are several quantitaitive studies that corroborate this
5/9 10:13:24.445  [Guild] Perplextar: can someone tell me how to get the full chatlog?
5/9 10:13:24.990  [Guild] Dissimula: i agree w/ Dyonesia
5/9 10:13:28.566  [Guild] Mariadr: The percens of female players varies tremendously by age
5/9 10:13:36.845  [Guild] Dyonesia: the gender breakdown is actually very well studied and repetable
5/9 10:13:37.393  Bormanus has gone offline.
5/9 10:13:41.970  Lindrius has joined the guild.
5/9 10:13:47.566  [Guild] Gizsela: you mean in WoW, 10 - 20 % female, I thought it was higher
5/9 10:13:52.453  Zomgscience says: Question: Why are scientists interested in MMORPGs, which have been around for 2 decades, instead of the newer emerging virtual worlds?
5/9 10:13:54.453  [Guild] Dyonesia: but the question is, what does it mean to study a "society" that has a 5:1 ratio of males to females
5/9 10:13:55.275  [Guild] Aquaregia: I think it may be the nature of the interaction. Although there is a social aspect WoW is not billed as social.
5/9 10:13:56.015  [Guild] Maggiemae: no it is not higher
5/9 10:14:03.657  [Guild] Trickshot: I wonder what the percentage of designers are female?
5/9 10:14:04.633  Gonzorina's pet begins eating a Tel'Abim Banana.
5/9 10:14:06.850  [Guild] Irma: our guild is 50-50
5/9 10:14:11.716  [Guild] Kartuni: wasn't it 40% in Nick Yee's data?
5/9 10:14:11.723  Zulatol has joined the guild.
5/9 10:14:14.252  [Guild] Réjean: I think Kartuni has data on gender
5/9 10:14:18.204  [Guild] Gzzomg: The gender breakdown is intrinsic to game theme, no?
5/9 10:14:18.876  [Guild] Southerncal: EQ2 = 19%, firm numbers
5/9 10:14:29.443  [Guild] Maggiemae: in china it's no more than 10 percent and about 20 in North America
5/9 10:14:31.038  [Guild] Dyonesia: Well the game industy data says about 11% of game designers industry-wide are female, 
5/9 10:14:34.075  [Guild] Kartuni: i have 30% from a recent survey
5/9 10:14:38.888  [Guild] Gzzomg: You'll always see that breakdown in games substantially devoted to combat.
5/9 10:14:46.693  [Guild] Dyonesia: Well I am averaging between some that say 10, some say 20, and some say 30
5/9 10:14:49.252  [Guild] Dissimula: to return to my point about alternative practices, i know several female players who are making up games iwthin the game because they like the world but find it inhospitable socially
5/9 10:14:49.252  [Guild] Ophelie: Yeah, see I question the validity of those numbers wrt to m/f ratio in-game.
5/9 10:14:52.542  [Guild] Adarel: We should also examine the impact socializing in WOW has on socializing in the RW
5/9 10:15:06.183  [Guild] Aquaregia: Yes I think so. @Gzzomg's comment
5/9 10:15:06.764  [Guild] Trickshot: I would love to create a reference list of all the articles on the subject we are discussing
5/9 10:15:08.313  [Guild] Adarel: are socially anxious people receiving social skills training through their playing?
5/9 10:15:12.650  [Guild] Kartuni: yes, this whole issue of transfer is interesting
5/9 10:15:12.658  [Guild] Gizsela: so do we expect a "lord of the flies" phenomenon without blizzard supervision?
5/9 10:15:14.409  [Guild] Kultura: we're moving on to next questions
5/9 10:15:17.188  [Guild] Zomboni: (Thelial): Guild seem to be the social centers, so their individual gender breakdows ought to be considered as well
5/9 10:15:20.311  [Guild] Teilnehmer: QUESTION: how can people access or legally collect data on WoW? especially for analyzing language one would need some actual logs, which are technically easy to collect, but that's not kosher wrt Blizzard's guidelines
5/9 10:15:20.602  [Guild] Kultura: QUESTION  How do you separate yourself as a player vs a researcher? Or do you?
5/9 10:15:31.780  [Guild] Southerncal: We have a paper just accepted that covers these %s and the gender splits on motivations
5/9 10:15:35.647  [Guild] Kartuni: I don't - any time spent in the game can be an opportunity to observe something new and worthy of further study.
5/9 10:15:46.500  Deaxter has gone offline.
5/9 10:15:48.650  [Guild] Maggiemae: south is it on the website -- sounds very valuable
5/9 10:15:50.761  Getfunked has come online.
5/9 10:15:53.905  [Guild] Kartuni: Of course if I want to interview someone and quote them, for instance, I will put my official researcher's hat on
5/9 10:15:57.609  [Guild] Computabull: At age 15 my daughter created the Center for Glitch Studies (glitch.shorturl.com) documenting 750 major programming errors in videogames, but is now doing brain scans rather than MMORPGs.
5/9 10:16:01.379  [Guild] Kartuni: but it's not like I decide before logging in that "this session will be a research session" and "this one is for fun only."
5/9 10:16:06.609  [Guild] Maggiemae: all! wonderful discussion but please do not inject new questions!!
5/9 10:16:10.426  [Guild] Southerncal: Can post when/how Bill says it's OK to
5/9 10:16:11.876  [Guild] Maggiemae: it's too confusing :D
5/9 10:16:19.317  [Guild] Maggiemae: thanks south
5/9 10:16:22.758  [Guild] Dixonrc: any time spent online is time spent in a different semiotic domain where you can learn skills to carry over into other domains
5/9 10:16:28.698  [Guild] Forme: @question: I don't separate. I dive in.
5/9 10:16:34.826  [Guild] Computabull: We can return to new questions after a few minutes.
5/9 10:17:10.363  [Guild] Charolais: I tell my wife they are ALL research sessions!
5/9 10:17:14.912  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK we have a fun question coming up!
5/9 10:17:19.807  [Guild] Apophenius: ROFL!
5/9 10:17:20.949  Yasura giggles.
5/9 10:17:29.650  [Guild] Kartuni: lol Charolais (nice name btw for a Tauren :))
5/9 10:17:43.095  [Guild] Kultura: next questions
5/9 10:17:45.229  [Guild] Kultura: QUESTION. Is ‘the magic circle’ a suitable concept for understanding World of Warcraft, or are there better ways of describing the relation between game and non-game?
5/9 10:18:08.361  [Guild] Trickshot: How do you define magic circle?
5/9 10:18:17.938  [Guild] Kartuni: I think the boundary between the game world and the rest of a player's life is way too porous for a circle to exist or, if it did, to persist over the long run.
5/9 10:18:25.718  [Guild] Charolais: I like Castronova's membrane analogy.
5/9 10:18:29.360  [Guild] Kartuni: Another way to look at it would be to say that it takes a lot of work, probably too much work, to try and maintain a clean separation between the two:
5/9 10:18:30.170  [Guild] Apophenius: a protected space where RW rules do not apply
5/9 10:18:33.968  Shugar has a shot
5/9 10:18:34.911  [Guild] Forme: i would define it as a "magic fractal" instead
5/9 10:18:37.588  Anaksul has come online.
5/9 10:18:37.596  Zomgscience says: Castronova did such a great job with Arden
5/9 10:18:41.136  [Guild] Kartuni: play takes place in an environment (the home, most often) that places its own demands on the player and affects their experience("gtg, dinner time!", "AFK, kid needs attention")...
5/9 10:18:46.658  Zomgscience says: he totally knows VWs
5/9 10:18:52.124  [Guild] Dixonrc: but RW rules do apply in WoW to some extant
5/9 10:18:52.678  Keefa has come online.
5/9 10:18:54.624  [Guild] Akigain: i agree with Castronova, this game is always in a liminal state, a perminant boundary is to fixed for how the game operates
5/9 10:18:59.612  [Guild] Thoguht: @kartuni  /cheer
5/9 10:19:02.666  [Guild] Babyseal: not many of those "kid needs attentions" afks.....
5/9 10:19:28.138  [Guild] Artume: ah, liminal - love that qualification / i agree
5/9 10:19:29.878  Shugar cheers zomgscience
5/9 10:19:32.615  [Guild] Ybika: great points indeed Kartuni
5/9 10:19:36.852  [Guild] Slizelina: thats why all the women arent on wow
5/9 10:19:46.661  [Guild] Lightsydor: Baby - depends on your guild makeup. Lots of moms in mine.
5/9 10:19:47.546  [Guild] Noralore: we had a raid member say, "brb quickly, kitchen fire" once
5/9 10:19:48.086  [Guild] Jusdafacs: because we're busy cooking dinner?
5/9 10:20:00.332  [Guild] Artume: ROFL
5/9 10:20:01.585  Asaruludu has gone offline.
5/9 10:20:07.209  [Guild] Apophenius: the magic circle is being eroded by RMT, which is almost impossible to stop
5/9 10:20:12.417  [Guild] Hyyacinth: i'd argue that why as many women as there are *do* play wow...lots of moms
5/9 10:20:19.630  [Guild] Trickshot: RMT?
5/9 10:20:19.882  [Guild] Aquaregia: RMT?
5/9 10:20:22.579  [Guild] Thoguht: one raid of mine wiped due to Mtn. Dew spill once
5/9 10:20:24.756  [Guild] Kaseido: *nods at Apo*
5/9 10:20:25.050  [Guild] Maggiemae: there are quite a few moms in my guild
5/9 10:20:25.592  [Guild] Irma: !!  barefoot, are we?
5/9 10:20:26.458  [Guild] Apophenius: real money trading
5/9 10:20:29.338  [Guild] Charolais: ream money transactions
5/9 10:20:33.516  [Guild] Forme: Noralore: there was another story, if a priest who rezzed all the group in a raid and only then said "hang on, my kitchen is on fire"
5/9 10:20:34.321  Ybika whispers: lol
5/9 10:20:39.267  [Guild] Computabull: The real world is divided into many different subcultures and settings with different rules.  It has its own magic circle - a froth of magic bubbles more like, with few rules between.
5/9 10:20:40.456  [Guild] Maggiemae: but still many fewer women overall
5/9 10:20:43.659  [Guild] Kartuni: LOL Forme
5/9 10:20:48.362  Dixonrc says: 1
5/9 10:20:57.191  [Guild] Artume: like what Bull said
5/9 10:21:01.297  [Guild] Noralore: heh
5/9 10:21:03.280  [Guild] Kultura: Southerncal has a comment
5/9 10:21:04.155  [Guild] Gzzomg: That's actually a very useful and itneresting thing to study. One would want to look at why women (by comparison with men, and on average) have more trouble entering a magic circle perceived in apposition to practical concerns.
5/9 10:21:05.817  [Guild] Mariadr: Our tank used to pass out, and we would wipe. Too much raiding.
5/9 10:21:10.286  [Guild] Jusdafacs: are RP players deliberately trying to set up the magic circle?
5/9 10:21:12.269  To Ybika: He was the hunter starting the fight... spill, oops. premature pull.. wipe
5/9 10:21:33.431  [Guild] Dissimula: i was on an instance run where one of the players said, 'hang on, the baby is throwing up.' so we waited... anxiiously...
5/9 10:21:34.633  [Guild] Réjean: Forgive my ignorance, but what is this concept of magic circle??
5/9 10:21:41.086  Ybika whispers: lol beautiful. damn hunters ;)
5/9 10:21:43.053  [Guild] Gzzomg: In a sense. But RP is recidivistic.
5/9 10:21:47.515  [Guild] Southerncal: Some findings from studying RPers recently (suing surveys, server-side data and in-depth interviews): Hard core RPers are about 4% of players, they have significant RL problems (disability, mental issues, etc.) at a much higher rate than general pop.
5/9 10:21:49.538  [Guild] Jusdafacs: Gzzomg, how do you know that women have more trouble than men?
5/9 10:21:51.122  [Guild] Dyonesia: I want to respond to the comment about "women having a harder time entering the magic circle"
5/9 10:21:51.426  [Guild] Artume: well, women participate in many magic circles - take the more pagan religions which are dominated by women
5/9 10:21:53.442  [Guild] Charolais: the coding authority has a vested interest in preserving the magic circle, no?
5/9 10:21:56.534  [Guild] Apophenius: it comes from Johan Huizinga's 1938 book Homo Ludens
5/9 10:21:59.579  [Guild] Southerncal: and most seem to find a fair amount of healthy release
5/9 10:22:02.329  [Guild] Dyonesia: This is precisely the kind of problem that comes out of these worlds where you have such a small percentage of women
5/9 10:22:04.031  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK please let panelists speak
5/9 10:22:04.862  [Guild] Computabull: "Thou shalt not kill" - in the RW, except the US has killed 100,000 Iraquis without concern. Rules in the RW, as Nietzsche said, are a sham.
5/9 10:22:08.977  [Guild] Dyonesia: the asusmption is that ther eis something wrong with teh women
5/9 10:22:12.087  [Guild] Dyonesia: :why don't women play?
5/9 10:22:15.900  [Guild] Maggiemae: dyonesia has the floor
5/9 10:22:17.915  [Guild] Dyonesia: or "women only play casual games?:
5/9 10:22:21.936  [Guild] Mariadr: women play
5/9 10:22:23.709  [Guild] Dyonesia: when in fact women DO play
5/9 10:22:23.965  [Guild] Aquaregia: So a magic circle is...a boundary beteween the virtual world and the outer world.
5/9 10:22:27.705  [Guild] Dyonesia: many games and virtual worlds
5/9 10:22:28.244  [Guild] Kartuni: wow Socal, that's interesting data
5/9 10:22:33.685  [Guild] Dyonesia: but just not THIS one
5/9 10:22:36.371  [Guild] Aquaregia: Or something akin to a social boundary?
5/9 10:22:48.502  [Guild] Dyonesia: at least not as much as say URU, which I studied and has a 50/50 male female ratio
5/9 10:23:00.518  [Guild] Slizelina: hmm, perhaps the boundaries are the same ones women have in RW
5/9 10:23:01.401  [Guild] Aquaregia: (Technically murder)
5/9 10:23:01.695  Getfunked creates Bolt of Linen Cloth.
5/9 10:23:04.732  Getfunked creates Bolt of Linen Cloth.
5/9 10:23:05.594  [Guild] Dyonesia: So i think to assume that women don't like to play because they are not playing WoW is erroneous and highly problematic
5/9 10:23:07.925  Getfunked creates Bolt of Linen Cloth.
5/9 10:23:11.702  Getfunked creates Bolt of Linen Cloth.
5/9 10:23:11.965  [Guild] Kartuni: @Socal: your data is basically saying that you need a magic circle when you *really* need to forget about your real life
5/9 10:23:14.924  Getfunked creates Bolt of Linen Cloth.
5/9 10:23:14.924  [Guild] Slizelina: i agrre with that
5/9 10:23:17.914  Getfunked creates Bolt of Linen Cloth.
5/9 10:23:18.585  [Guild] Rissy: Agreed Dyonesia
5/9 10:23:21.392  Kyrsson has gone offline.
5/9 10:23:28.844  [Guild] Southerncal: Appears to, Kartuni
5/9 10:23:34.791  [Guild] Dyonesia: There are also other factors that get ingored, such as age
5/9 10:23:37.500  [Guild] Hyyacinth: *nods*
5/9 10:23:39.074  [Guild] Maggiemae: nokota has a question -- he or she has the floor
5/9 10:23:39.328  [Guild] Dyonesia: and whether peopel have kids and how old
5/9 10:23:41.180  [Guild] Noralore: Computabull...Nietzsche also said, "I know of no other way of dealing with great tasks than that of play"
5/9 10:23:42.858  [Guild] Slizelina: pretty close to 50% in SL
5/9 10:23:44.708  [Guild] Southerncal: Or are in need of an outlet because you are marginalized in some key way
5/9 10:23:52.527  [Guild] Slizelina: yes
5/9 10:23:59.981  [Guild] Aquaregia: Does the gender breakdown hold up for all age ranges?
5/9 10:24:06.828  [Guild] Mariadr: Among 25-35 yo, there are many times more women than among teen WoW gamers
5/9 10:24:11.643  [Guild] Nokota: Dyonisia, how much of the demographics is on marketing research and not academic research?
5/9 10:24:12.114  Zomgscience says: Nietzsche also said, "I'm insane, ow, this syphillus stinks!"
5/9 10:24:14.012  [Guild] Slizelina: there is agreat deal of homophobia and sexism in wow, like rw
5/9 10:24:18.180  [Guild] Shugar: so players who gank chinese goldf famers are justified in their actions due to the perceived trangressive actions of the farmers against the 'Magic Circle'?
5/9 10:24:23.793  [Guild] Rissy: 'd think if you really wanted to study this, you'd do it in an envrionment that was designed for social interaction and community rather than one for waging war or having battles.
5/9 10:24:30.295  [Guild] Artume: well women are socialized not to fight; men are socialized more so in this respect - there is an idead that these games are for the purpose of killing, thus...
5/9 10:24:37.215  [Guild] Irma: are women better represented in games with better GM moderation?
5/9 10:24:38.536  [Guild] Dyonesia: all of the figures I quoted before on WoW gender breakdown are exculsuvely basedon academci resarch
5/9 10:24:52.232  [Guild] Akigain: ganiking any player is fine by the rules of WoW's magic circle
5/9 10:24:53.677  Redacted has come online.
5/9 10:24:54.614  [Guild] Artume: *idea
5/9 10:25:08.542  [Guild] Khatchi: @ Artume, of the women who play WoW, what class do they choose the most?
5/9 10:25:08.843  [Guild] Dyonesia: Anyway, I think that we need to perhaps move away from the frame of gender stereotyping in this discussion
5/9 10:25:11.720  [Guild] Zomboni: (Thelial): Generalizing "wow" might be problematic dut to the significant differences between guild cultures
5/9 10:25:11.726  [Guild] Slizelina: GMModeration?
5/9 10:25:16.084  [Guild] Computabull: The traditional assumption was that people who joined religious cults were escaping, marginalized, demoralized, pathological.  Data don't show that to be true. Because it's subcultural, weak social bonds help recruit, but not pathology.
5/9 10:25:16.084  [Guild] Jusdafacs: but there is a great deal of aggressivity towards the so-called chinese gold farmer
5/9 10:25:25.443  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK, we have time for a few audience questions -- not that we haven't already had a lot! so please whisper me -
5/9 10:25:39.395  [Guild] Hyyacinth: women=socialized not to fight might be too simple an explanation, given that WoW is not a shoot-em-up, exclusively
5/9 10:25:40.525  [Guild] Kartuni: @Computabull: interesting
5/9 10:25:42.032  [Guild] Maggiemae: i will call on you
5/9 10:25:45.356  Zomgscience says: How can you call gold farmers "so-called"? Blizzard's currently suing IGE for just that
5/9 10:25:51.396  [Guild] Irma: GM's moderating general chat, for instance
5/9 10:26:04.538  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK no audience questions?
5/9 10:26:22.604  [Guild] Slizelina: i dnt think moderating hasanything to do with it
5/9 10:26:25.159  [Guild] Artume: exactly Hy - sort of a misconception in a way - about the game - however PVP is very shoot-em-up
5/9 10:26:25.696  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK anaksul has a question
5/9 10:26:28.884  [Guild] Yasura: Actually GMs rarely moderate the public channels. It's up to players to report violations.
5/9 10:26:30.486  [Guild] Apophenius: well i have a question about the inlfuence of corporate money on research
5/9 10:26:36.599  [Guild] Maggiemae: and then gonzorina is next
5/9 10:26:47.942  [Guild] Slizelina: yes, wow is misperieved as being focused on aggression
5/9 10:26:49.351  [Guild] Irma: exactly
5/9 10:26:54.582  [Guild] Anaksul: I'm curious as to what data folks are using on the prevalence of male/female players in WoW.
5/9 10:27:00.747  [Guild] Kartuni: <- works at a corporate reserach lab, hides under the table
5/9 10:27:04.370  [Guild] Hyyacinth: *nods*
5/9 10:27:13.070  [Guild] Anaksul: Making statements of there's alot of X or Y in my guild does not seem to constitute proof.
5/9 10:27:14.750  [Guild] Artume: yes, given that account info that alludes to gender is private
5/9 10:27:23.033  [Guild] Forme: If you take a point of view of a few remaining murlocs - WoW is very aggressive game, indeed.
5/9 10:27:42.189  [Guild] Kartuni: wait until you seee Age of Conan
5/9 10:27:43.279  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK question order -- PAY ATTENTION -- kathianim, clarion, rejean
5/9 10:27:47.862  [Guild] Babyseal: True, Anak, but you can hear them on vent
5/9 10:27:55.400  Zomgscience bursts into dance.
5/9 10:28:02.412  [Guild] Jusdafacs: small sample size 
5/9 10:28:05.032  [Guild] Anaksul: Yeah, but how many folks on a server?
5/9 10:28:05.517  [4. terrornova] Kartuni, *Jusdafacs, Thoguht
5/9 10:28:07.944  [Guild] Anaksul: 10K?
5/9 10:28:10.655  [Guild] Anaksul: 5K per side?
5/9 10:28:17.189  [Guild] Kartuni: a bit more actually
5/9 10:28:20.611  [Guild] Forme: By the way, researching from the other side is very interesting. What does Lady Sylvana think about all this?
5/9 10:28:23.116  [Guild] Kartuni: but not much
5/9 10:28:25.286  [Guild] Thoguht: ratio depends on server
5/9 10:28:30.607  [Guild] Computabull: 4000 max at one time, limt of characters over time much higher
5/9 10:28:33.584  [Guild] Kartuni: 10k each on balanced, high-pop servers
5/9 10:28:43.198  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok kana your question plz
5/9 10:28:45.889  [Guild] Kartuni: (not simultaneous, yes)
5/9 10:28:46.148  [Guild] Dyonesia: on the gender question I juswt wanted to say I am working from two major studies
5/9 10:28:50.502  [Guild] Kathianim: I have a question regarding the phenomon discussed about Chinese internet cafes.  I've actually gamed with friends and relatives in a private apartment together -- interacting both in the game world and in the real world.  Might this be a similar phenomon
5/9 10:28:55.388  [Guild] Dyonesia: Project Massive at CMU and Nick Yee's research
5/9 10:28:59.173  [Guild] Kathianim: |?
5/9 10:29:15.951  Gonzorina's pet begins eating a Tel'Abim Banana.
5/9 10:29:17.307  [Guild] Southerncal: @Anaksul. There are decent studies of demographics, but even Nick Y's have self-selection biases. Our latest (which Nick is involved with) was done in conjunction with the devs and is a nearly perfect random sample.
5/9 10:29:21.470  [Guild] Computabull: Some families do gaming together now, and many many couples.
5/9 10:29:35.011  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK, thanks and now let's take clarion's question
5/9 10:30:02.023  [Guild] Apophenius: Fatima Jonnson presented a paper on this at the Breaking the Magic Circle conference in Tampere last month
5/9 10:30:03.104  [Guild] Clarion: I'd like to know if anyone has had success collarboating with Blizzard to gather data?  they must be sitting on a gold mine
5/9 10:30:04.244  [Guild] Dyonesia: Great would love to hear more about that
5/9 10:30:06.851  Zomgscience whistles at Wohitika.
5/9 10:30:09.279  Zscheme has gone offline.
5/9 10:30:15.261  [Guild] Slizelina: i came to wow thru my kids
5/9 10:30:24.085  [Guild] Kartuni: @Clarion: no luck for us, and I can tell you we tried hard
5/9 10:30:25.468  [Guild] Clarion: things like lifetimes of guilds, gender info, etc.
5/9 10:30:26.131  Zomgscience falls asleep. Zzzzzzz.
5/9 10:30:41.610  Zulatol falls asleep. Zzzzzzz.
5/9 10:30:43.379  [Guild] Kartuni: @Clarion: and we thought they'd benefit too, it's not like it was one way
5/9 10:30:44.772  Zscheme has come online.
5/9 10:30:45.366  [Guild] Maggiemae: no luck at all! and now rejean's question please
5/9 10:30:47.908  [Guild] Dyonesia: Blizzard is very closed to academic research as are most game companies
5/9 10:30:53.499  [Guild] Southerncal: Blizz has academia on /ignore. Took me 3 months of wrangling with their lawyers just to get a forum post stickied and blue-endorsed
5/9 10:30:59.421  [Guild] Noralore: heh
5/9 10:30:59.421  Selie has gone offline.
5/9 10:31:01.580  [Guild] Clarion: if all us academics banded together - I can't imagine they would ignore us
5/9 10:31:08.526  [Guild] Dyonesia: they will i promise iyou
5/9 10:31:11.508  [Guild] Maggiemae: yes they would -- next question rejean please
5/9 10:31:11.517  [Guild] Jusdafacs: a raid?
5/9 10:31:22.469  [Guild] Forme: They will just mass-close academia accounts
5/9 10:31:26.973  [Guild] Réjean: Do you believe MMORPGs are generally addictive and/or therapeutic?
5/9 10:31:27.559  [Guild] Aquaregia: Depends on their business interest.
5/9 10:31:29.309  [Guild] Adarel: Blizzard and other companies might fear what gamers would think if they allowed their players to be stuided
5/9 10:31:29.877  [Guild] Dyonesia: they will ban you if you try to stage a protest
5/9 10:31:31.732  [Guild] Maggiemae: and gonzorina next please
5/9 10:31:33.462  [Guild] Computabull: Or, from this conference, we show Blizzard we can be responsible contributors to progress in the field.
5/9 10:31:38.394  [Guild] Dyonesia: anyway lets' move on from this 
5/9 10:31:58.373  [Guild] Maggiemae: please respond to rejean
5/9 10:32:03.599  [Guild] Aquaregia: I think the dynamic nature of the use of the word "Addiction" is interesting.
5/9 10:32:05.102  [Guild] Kartuni: addictive it such a loaded term
5/9 10:32:11.008  [Guild] Kartuni: *is
5/9 10:32:21.699  [Guild] Forme: rejean: it largely depends on what YOU want to get from them
5/9 10:32:22.894  [Guild] Maggiemae: rejean asks about addiciton
5/9 10:32:30.225  [Guild] Aquaregia: Someone who works daily on their car isn't "addicted' to working on their car.
5/9 10:32:31.584  [Guild] Thoguht: I'm addicted to hanging out with my friends.
5/9 10:32:31.917  [Guild] Kartuni: is soccer addictive? because I sure play it a lot
5/9 10:32:45.120  [Guild] Ybika: i like sherry turkle's take on this, using the term addiction often cuts the conversation short and keeps us from exploring some of the really interesting angles of these spaces
5/9 10:32:47.190  [Guild] Noralore: same thing with reading...we don't say we're addicted to reading
5/9 10:32:47.979  [Guild] Réjean: hehe
5/9 10:32:49.144  [Guild] Clarion: I'm addicted to eating at meals
5/9 10:32:50.227  [Guild] Aquaregia: I think some use of the word addiction implies a perceived value judgement on the substance
5/9 10:32:56.365  [Guild] Mariadr: It's hard to separate emotional needs from psychological addictions
5/9 10:32:56.662  [Guild] Hyyacinth: depends on what the person invoking the word wants to *use* the word for
5/9 10:32:58.123  [Guild] Dyonesia: this is a complex question that really hasn't been looked at other than by sensationalist journalism
5/9 10:32:58.133  [Guild] Maggiemae: there is no clinical definition but clearly some people play too much - they neglect school or work
5/9 10:32:58.963  [Guild] Dissimula: rpgs won't be really mature as  a form until players are treated like the stakeholders they are.... like stock owners... not like beggars asking master for handouts
5/9 10:32:59.259  [Guild] Charolais: It can be as addictive as anything.  People with self control problems can be in trouble.
5/9 10:33:00.090  [Guild] Kartuni: exactly, Aqua
5/9 10:33:02.651  [Guild] Jusdafacs: there is a definition for addiction though
5/9 10:33:04.129  [Guild] Southerncal: @rejean: we have some prelimary results on this. Comparing an MMO sample to matched college aged students we found that the college students scored worse on problematic use scales. Was kinda shocking.
5/9 10:33:08.424  [Guild] Babyseal: Do they lead to significant negative results IRL?
5/9 10:33:17.270  [Guild] Dyonesia: I would like to see this approached not as a matter of opinion but with empirical resaerch using
5/9 10:33:18.978  [Guild] Gzzomg: The word 'addiction' is actually pretty precise in these post-rehab-aware days, no? Negative results.
5/9 10:33:23.959  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK thanks for these great comments -- we are going on to gonzorina's question now !!!
5/9 10:33:31.854  [Guild] Hyyacinth: definitions aside -- consider the social function of the term, and in context
5/9 10:33:32.660  [Guild] Dyonesia: clinincal definitions of "addiction" rather than heresay and opinions
5/9 10:33:51.197  [Guild] Forme: @southencal, what does it mean, exactly?
5/9 10:33:51.281  Khatchi's pet begins eating a Red Wolf Meat.
5/9 10:33:54.374  [Guild] Réjean: I'm assuming the same goes for the notion of therapeutic?
5/9 10:33:55.041  Redhairshana has joined the guild.
5/9 10:34:01.593  [Guild] Gonzorina: A question for the panelists--and this is for my article for Science--please give an example of a valuable testable scientific hypothesis that can be answered with WoW research.  (I hear a lot of generalities, but am hard-pressed to name specific experime
5/9 10:34:10.986  [Guild] Jusdafacs: i also think MMORPGs can be used therapeutically too
5/9 10:34:14.431  [Guild] Gizsela: well, isn't addcitive something that is harmful to you or others, 
5/9 10:34:24.699  Dixonrc says: 11
5/9 10:34:30.029  [Guild] Dyonesia: Yes
5/9 10:34:36.824  [Guild] Aquaregia: that seems like a partial definition
5/9 10:34:41.658  [Guild] Southerncal: problematic internet use in general: compulsive use, inability to stop, negative repurcussions of use, preference for online over offline social intercation (scales from Scott Caplan, U delaware)
5/9 10:34:44.838  Irma's pet begins eating a Tough Jerky.
5/9 10:34:47.786  Maiidi has come online.
5/9 10:34:53.546  [Guild] Aquaregia: Hemlock drinking is harmful.
5/9 10:35:02.113  [Guild] Dyonesia: Do we have anyone here with expertise in addiction?
5/9 10:35:02.962  [Guild] Jusdafacs: but not addictive
5/9 10:35:05.466  [Guild] Forme: @southernal: ahha, thanks!
5/9 10:35:09.409  [Guild] Aquaregia: Ah Southerncal, a good broader definition.
5/9 10:35:12.856  [Guild] Gizsela: only once
5/9 10:35:13.798  [Guild] Kartuni: @Gonzo: is there a particular group structure/organization that increases a group's chance of survival
5/9 10:35:14.619  [Guild] Dyonesia: Otherwise i don't see how this can be resolved over than just a bunch of different ideas and opinions
5/9 10:35:21.456  [1. General] Tourch: any officers of AIE here?
5/9 10:35:50.355  Maiidi has gone offline.
5/9 10:36:04.500  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK we will have one last question for Teilnehmer!!
5/9 10:36:04.954  [Guild] Mariadr: even if there are experts, it won't be resolved in any ways other than a bunch of opinions
5/9 10:36:05.702  [Guild] Forme: kartuni, good example. there's also difference between a good pvp and a good pve group
5/9 10:36:07.444  Earadorn has gone offline.
5/9 10:36:08.023  [Guild] Teilnehmer: Q: How can people legally get access to WoW data? for language, one can take a log, but that seems not to be in compliance with WoW's user agreement. for social interaction data it would be even harder
5/9 10:36:12.632  [1. General] Thoguht: Debate with uninformed opinions is what makes america great!
5/9 10:36:19.130  [Guild] Maggiemae: Teilnehemer this is your chance
5/9 10:36:23.929  [Guild] Kartuni: @Forme: indeed
5/9 10:36:28.679  Zomgscience whispers: NICE! SNAP!
5/9 10:36:36.916  Valieria has gone offline.
5/9 10:36:47.676  [Guild] Dixonrc: @kartuni : chance of survival as in clearing a dungeon?  or as in longetivity of guild togetherness?
5/9 10:36:49.951  To Zomgscience: zomg!
5/9 10:36:58.239  Zomgscience whispers: roflcopter
5/9 10:37:07.221  [Guild] Southerncal: @Teil: make friends with Nic and the PARC folks :)
5/9 10:37:10.679  Zomgscience whispers: you're watching on world2worlds.com right?
5/9 10:37:11.238  [Guild] Forme: dixonrc: former, but latter is another very interesting thing
5/9 10:37:15.085  [Guild] Artume: there is nothing in the user agreement that prohibits taking a chatlog - they just say that when THEY (Blizz) take a chat log, they won't release it w/o a subpeona
5/9 10:37:15.085  [Guild] Parnopaeus: @Teil, Blizzard actually sent a letter okaying my use of /chatlog for research purposes, so it seems to be okay 
5/9 10:37:22.387  [Guild] Kartuni: more the latter, but the former could be interesting too - the nice thing is that you're free to define your dependent variable, basically
5/9 10:37:32.661  [Guild] Ophelie: I would assume that a voluntary collection of subjects (e.g., a guild) with full disclosure as to what the data is being collected for would be acceptable under the TOS.
5/9 10:37:33.280  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK< one last last question!!!
5/9 10:37:41.395  To Zomgscience: technically.. I just hopped on the website but haven't actually eyeballed it yet.
5/9 10:37:45.588  [Guild] Maggiemae: from aquaregia
5/9 10:37:45.956  [Guild] Aquaregia: So could someone define magic circle?
5/9 10:37:51.939  Ronaan's pet begins eating a Chunk of Boar Meat.
5/9 10:38:02.908  Ronaan's pet begins eating a Chunk of Boar Meat.
5/9 10:38:05.067  [Guild] Southerncal: Blizz OK'd an experiment I did in WoW once. I jsut had to do the data collection.
5/9 10:38:13.909  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK good question on the magic circle
5/9 10:38:14.719  [Guild] Computabull: Another reply to Gonzo's Q: Careful quantitative studies of player's decisions when they build up characters can validly test theories of the stability of personality - versus unstable role playing - that have divided psychology from sociology for decades
5/9 10:38:20.003  [Guild] Apophenius: well, a protected game space insulated from the adverse effect of outside rules - e.g. football field
5/9 10:38:21.646  [Guild] Slizelina: sacred space defined by intention of the caster
5/9 10:38:37.944  [Guild] Profsmith: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Circle_%28synthetic_worlds%29
5/9 10:38:45.449  [Guild] Maggiemae: OK, on that note, wew must end our own magic circle!! 
5/9 10:38:45.741  [Guild] Serne: Can we kill something now?!#
5/9 10:38:47.072  [Guild] Thoguht: I went thru IRB... Blizzard never replied.
5/9 10:38:49.318  [Guild] Maggiemae: Thanks so much everyone!!!
5/9 10:38:53.778  Yasura cheers!
5/9 10:38:55.263  [Guild] Maggiemae: Really lovely discussion and great fun!!!
5/9 10:38:56.466  Irma claps excitedly.
5/9 10:38:57.032  Slizelina claps excitedly.
5/9 10:38:58.279  [Guild] Kultura: Thanks to the panel!
5/9 10:38:59.952  Noanok claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:00.480  Wohitika cheers at Noanok!
5/9 10:39:00.488  Kebehet applauds.  Bravo!
5/9 10:39:00.488  Araculla claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:01.097  Hyyacinth claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:01.934  Apophenius thanks everyone.
5/9 10:39:02.178  Khatchi cheers at Redhairshana!
5/9 10:39:02.462  Bowhunk cheers!
5/9 10:39:03.259  Slizelina claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:03.543  Zenoelea thanks everyone.
5/9 10:39:04.108  [Guild] Computabull: CHEER the sessions chairs!
5/9 10:39:04.116  Shotokahn claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:04.399  Jakola claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:04.406  Kathianim claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:04.406  Togda applauds at Dixonrc.  Bravo!
5/9 10:39:04.933  Redhairshana claps excitedly for Ofielia.
5/9 10:39:05.215  Gonzorina claps excitedly for Catullus.
5/9 10:39:05.498  Araculla moos. Mooooooooooo.
5/9 10:39:05.782  Irma moos. Mooooooooooo.
5/9 10:39:05.782  Nokota cheers for the panel
5/9 10:39:06.035  [Guild] Passera: I'm guessing it wouldn't be hard to get permission from CCP to do research on EVE. The people I know there would probably be really interested.
5/9 10:39:06.320  You cheer!
5/9 10:39:06.881  Bytola claps excitedly for Saunter.
5/9 10:39:07.464  Shiyali cheers!
5/9 10:39:08.335  Kaseido applauds the presenters
5/9 10:39:08.935  Noanok cheers!
5/9 10:39:09.493  Araculla cheers!
5/9 10:39:09.776  Hyyacinth cheers!
5/9 10:39:10.609  Passera cheers at Arathise!
5/9 10:39:10.892  Gizsela cheers!
5/9 10:39:12.607  Shiyali claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:13.478  Getfunked cheers!
5/9 10:39:13.763  Shotokahn cheers!
5/9 10:39:14.324  Nokota claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:15.165  Geradamas cheers!
5/9 10:39:16.031  Slizelina cheers!
5/9 10:39:16.031  [Guild] Uljasa: thanks everyone - very instructive
5/9 10:39:16.278  Kathianim cheers!
5/9 10:39:17.176  Passera claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:18.278  Gonzorina claps excitedly for Catullus.
5/9 10:39:18.574  Ofielia applauds.  Bravo!
5/9 10:39:21.646  Saunter cheers at Bytola!
5/9 10:39:22.484  Gizsela bursts into dance.
5/9 10:39:22.484  Anaksul cheers!
5/9 10:39:23.596  [Guild] Kebehet: Well done on moderating also, Maggiemae
5/9 10:39:24.641  Araculla cheers!
5/9 10:39:24.919  Cplane claps excitedly for Sprye.
5/9 10:39:25.208  [Guild] Babyseal: yeah, thanks!
5/9 10:39:25.451  Irma thanks everyone.
5/9 10:39:25.451  [Guild] Southerncal: Bill, want to say how to post research and links?
5/9 10:39:26.511  [Guild] Serne: Thank you Bonnie et al.
5/9 10:39:27.696  Zulatol cheers!
5/9 10:39:27.995  Lightsydor has left the raid group.
5/9 10:39:30.433  Idnan claps excitedly.
5/9 10:39:32.667  [Guild] Computabull: FIVE MINUTE BIO BREAK, then we can begin the expedition.
5/9 10:39:35.030  Shugar golf claps
5/9 10:39:40.506  [Guild] Lack: haha bio break.
5/9 10:39:41.024  [Guild] Jusdafacs: yay!
5/9 10:39:42.005  Trickshot applauds.  Bravo!
5/9 10:39:42.551  [Guild] Maggiemae: thanks everyone!
5/9 10:39:43.550  [Guild] Clarion: thanks all - this was realy great!
5/9 10:39:45.300  Parnopaeus bursts into dance.
5/9 10:39:46.414  Gyges has gone offline.
5/9 10:39:46.531  [Guild] Forme: passera: in eve this is sometimes easier, yes
5/9 10:39:49.738  [Guild] Jusdafacs: very interesting discussion
5/9 10:39:50.016  Artume cheers!
5/9 10:39:50.956  [Guild] Kathianim: where's this expedition?
5/9 10:39:54.997  [Guild] Computabull: Send info, files, pictures to the gmail address on the wiki.
5/9 10:39:55.304  [Guild] Slizelina: how do i read the chat i saved:?
5/9 10:39:55.589  [Guild] Serne: You want bios from us (joking)?
5/9 10:39:55.939  Passera's pet begins eating a Lynx Steak.
5/9 10:40:05.956  Vicariously has gone offline.
5/9 10:40:09.473  [Guild] Dixonrc: what is the scientific purpose of this expedition? :)
5/9 10:40:11.546  [Guild] Jusdafacs: how do we stop chatlog?
5/9 10:40:17.463  [Guild] Jusdafacs: is it to kill stuff?
5/9 10:40:18.280  [Guild] Aquaregia: Thank you. Just searching on magic circle didn't bring the synthetic worlds definition very high on results.
5/9 10:40:19.249  [Guild] Computabull: The expedition begins here, and we march thru Org to Thunder Bluff, as described on the wiki
5/9 10:40:20.952  [Guild] Parnopaeus: type /chatlog again
5/9 10:40:23.465  [Guild] Gizsela: this is truely and impressive event, anybody took the group picture or do we wait for the last day?
5/9 10:40:24.043  [Guild] Lack: type "/chatlog" again
5/9 10:40:25.066  [Guild] Yasura: just type /chatlog again
5/9 10:40:26.944  Shahkh has gone offline.
5/9 10:40:30.082  [Guild] Passera: Well. They bought White Wolf, the company with happy hour. They've got to be fairly laid back.
5/9 10:40:33.290  You wave.
5/9 10:40:34.120  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:40:37.504  Thoguht says: Hi mom!
5/9 10:40:43.776  [Guild] Slizelina: thanks lack
5/9 10:40:52.439  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:40:59.480  To Zomgscience: ok... just checked it out and Hi momed! :)
5/9 10:41:11.859  Yasura waves.
5/9 10:41:14.483  [Guild] Zomboni: (Thelial): Next panel is tomorrow?
5/9 10:41:17.337  Kebehet has gone offline.
5/9 10:41:18.060  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:41:18.341  Shahkh has come online.
5/9 10:41:18.815  [Guild] Ybika: there are also two good associations working on virtual worlds and games that might be of interest to people. aoir.org (association of internet researchers - there is a 15+ year history of work on virtual worlds worth checkign into
5/9 10:41:19.094  [Guild] Maggiemae: guild i am very sorry i cannot join the expedition but I have teaching today
5/9 10:41:23.895  [Guild] Maggiemae: see you at the next sessoin
5/9 10:41:26.188  [Guild] Ybika: and digra.org for game studies
5/9 10:41:26.730  [Guild] Saunter: @Passera met a bunch of them at GDC, they are indeed laid back
5/9 10:41:28.137  Zomgscience whispers: heheheh
5/9 10:41:32.619  [Guild] Southerncal: Aye, tomorrow's panel starts at Undercity
5/9 10:41:32.619  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:41:33.968  [Guild] Shahkh: z
5/9 10:41:36.551  [Guild] Maggiemae: anyone need a portal to anywhere?
5/9 10:41:44.201  [Guild] Dixonrc: UC? :)
5/9 10:41:46.175  [Guild] Trickshot: Hey, I'd like a conference goal to create a grand reference list
5/9 10:41:48.424  [Guild] Kaseido: Ybika, thanks for that!
5/9 10:41:48.987  [Guild] Maggiemae: portal to UC coming up
5/9 10:41:50.446  [Guild] Gizsela: so when do we have a session on retrovirolgy?
5/9 10:41:52.100  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:41:55.143  [Guild] Trickshot: stuff we're working on,stuff that has been done
5/9 10:41:57.874  Zomgscience says: Can I get a port to a virtual world actually suitable for academic research, plz? paying 1g
5/9 10:42:10.723  [Guild] Rissy: laugh
5/9 10:42:11.106  [Guild] Zomboni: (Thelial): See you all tomorrow, much writing to do today.
5/9 10:42:13.575  [Guild] Dixonrc: group invite? :)
5/9 10:42:14.659  [Guild] Parnopaeus: Who IS this zomgscience guy? 
5/9 10:42:14.659  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:42:17.270  [Guild] Thoguht: There's a wiki started for researchers to add their infoz... also papers/research agendas right?
5/9 10:42:18.613  Aquaregia says: Sorry...avatar interoperability hsn't been developed yet :)
5/9 10:42:19.649  [Guild] Maggiemae: invite me if  you need portal please
5/9 10:42:21.394  [Guild] Bowhunk: u would like a port to shatt
5/9 10:42:25.491  Zomgscience says: I am a poor orc orphan.
5/9 10:42:36.284  [Guild] Bowhunk: I*
5/9 10:42:37.712  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok who else for UC?
5/9 10:42:38.280  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:42:38.555  [Guild] Trickshot: taking a shatt?
5/9 10:42:42.327  [Guild] Shahkh: is anyone still doing raid invites?
5/9 10:42:43.746  [Guild] Maggiemae: and then shatt next
5/9 10:42:43.755  Akigain has gone offline.
5/9 10:42:46.284  [Guild] Slizelina: me for UC
5/9 10:42:50.562  [Guild] Clarion: can lowbies even get to shatt?
5/9 10:42:51.856  Alishya has left the raid group.
5/9 10:42:52.028  [Guild] Kaseido: me please
5/9 10:42:52.302  Zomgscience says: And the point is - you folks are darn lucky only a couple of us showed up and have *not* really been all that disruptive.
5/9 10:42:55.368  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:42:57.408  [Guild] Yasura: via portal, yes
5/9 10:43:06.883  Zomgscience says: And all you researchers should realize the huge risks being taken at this conference.
5/9 10:43:07.891  Babyseal has gone offline.
5/9 10:43:10.451  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:43:15.119  Khatchi says: at least we arent flagged for PvP ;)
5/9 10:43:18.907  Clarion says: hat risks?
5/9 10:43:19.456  Aquaregia says: Actually you're comments have sometimes been  helpful. 
5/9 10:43:20.573  [Guild] Maggiemae: invites coming
5/9 10:43:26.335  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:43:30.104  Lack is now the group leader.
5/9 10:43:30.686  Idnan has left the raid group.
5/9 10:43:31.312  Serne says: I know zomgsic
5/9 10:43:31.674  [Guild] Maggiemae: anyone else for UC?
5/9 10:43:34.051  [Guild] Shahkh: thanks Maggie
5/9 10:43:36.674  Clarion has left the raid group.
5/9 10:43:37.992  [Guild] Dixonrc: kaseido leave party :)
5/9 10:43:40.248  [Guild] Maggiemae: thank you!
5/9 10:43:44.322  Serne says: that we've been lucky i mean#
5/9 10:43:45.180  Kaseido has left the raid group.
5/9 10:43:47.099  [Guild] Trickshot: are we all going to shatt or are we going on the expedition?
5/9 10:43:50.586  Trickshot's pet begins eating a Roasted Quail.
5/9 10:43:53.205  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:44:06.168  [Guild] Catullus: Expedition leaving here for TB momentarily, may be an attack on Crossroads by Alliance, but we can;t be sure.
5/9 10:44:07.440  Zomgscience says: If this was my primary server? I would have had my guild log on and a swarm of 70s would have descended :)
5/9 10:44:09.646  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:44:15.023  Catullus has gone offline.
5/9 10:44:28.439  Trickshot says: if my bubby wore pants, she'd be my gradma
5/9 10:44:28.439  Lightsydor has gone offline.
5/9 10:44:31.054  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:44:31.607  Clarion says: that's not a very big risk
5/9 10:44:37.513  Clarion says: we can still chat when are toons are dead
5/9 10:44:40.907  Passera says: Why would you -want- to though??
5/9 10:44:50.277  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:44:51.215  Serne says: Actually, we have been lucky the grifers stayed away
5/9 10:44:52.022  [Guild] Maggiemae: invite bowhunk
5/9 10:44:54.191  Dixonrc has gone offline.
5/9 10:44:54.196  [Guild] Lack: i wonder if there has been an "Anti-Science" guild formed by Alliance
5/9 10:45:00.062  [Guild] Lack: to gank us.
5/9 10:45:03.413  [Guild] Kathianim: haha
5/9 10:45:04.160  [Guild] Dyonesia: god that's ironic
5/9 10:45:05.791  Zomboni has gone offline.
5/9 10:45:06.920  [Guild] Noanok: Religion?
5/9 10:45:09.067  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:45:13.395  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok who else for shatt?
5/9 10:45:13.962  [Guild] Niali: that would require some serious organization
5/9 10:45:15.032  [Guild] Zulatol: lol
5/9 10:45:15.873  [Guild] Khatchi: I wonder if they'd understand it
5/9 10:45:16.161  [Guild] Lack: haha i wasn't gonna touch that
5/9 10:45:16.165  [Guild] Kathianim: Creationism?
5/9 10:45:17.007  [Guild] Dyonesia: how about "The US Government"?
5/9 10:45:19.235  [Guild] Forme: Actually, it's easy to stay away from griefers - ye olde EVE paranoids have a few tricks:)
5/9 10:45:20.147  Trickshot says: i'll go to shat
5/9 10:45:23.522  [Guild] Réjean: hehe they want to challenge our hegemony lol
5/9 10:45:23.522  Kaseido's pet begins eating a Haunch of Meat.
5/9 10:45:23.791  [Guild] Liebenwalde: FYI: not a PVP server afaik :-)
5/9 10:45:23.791  [Guild] Togda: i was in stormwind and ironforge today -they seem pretty friendly :)
5/9 10:45:24.632  Yasura says: Well, it's an RP server. The GMs are a bit more strict on enforcing "RP events"
5/9 10:45:25.503  Kaseido's pet begins eating a Haunch of Meat.
5/9 10:45:26.440  [Guild] Shotokahn: I must leave as well.....work work work...see you all tomorrow
5/9 10:45:27.514  Kaseido's pet begins eating a Haunch of Meat.
5/9 10:45:28.316  [Guild] Computabull: Catullus got a perfect log of the session, checking Computabull now.
5/9 10:45:29.221  [Guild] Gizsela: hey, all my other characters are alliance
5/9 10:45:29.472  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:45:29.475  [Guild] Lack: oh right
5/9 10:45:30.023  Kaseido's pet begins eating a Haunch of Meat.
5/9 10:45:31.712  Computabull has gone offline.
5/9 10:45:33.425  Ybika whispers: btw, i keep pointing various students to you and your work on raiding but you have your papers embargoed on the do not quote thign so don't be surprised if they mail you to get special permission (i told them to! lol)
5/9 10:45:33.967  Trickshot says: Alliance hates stem cell research
5/9 10:45:34.510  [Guild] Dyonesia: bye all thank you 
5/9 10:45:38.363  Dyonesia has gone offline.
5/9 10:45:39.756  [Guild] Lack: we'd have to be flagged
5/9 10:45:39.756  [Guild] Kartuni: Proof that the magic circle does not exist: I must now deal with plumbing issues at home - see you all later!
5/9 10:45:46.651  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:45:47.464  Shotokahn has gone offline.
5/9 10:45:48.864  Bowhunk bows before Maggiemae.
5/9 10:45:50.268  Passera says: I mean, I get that there is a certain machismo in being jerks to other people. But ultimately, what would be the point in griefing the event?
5/9 10:45:50.547  [Guild] Maggiemae: last call for port to shat!!
5/9 10:45:50.820  [Guild] Réjean: good luck
5/9 10:45:51.861  To Ybika: awesome!
5/9 10:45:54.848  Maggiemae cheers at Bowhunk!
5/9 10:45:57.639  Serne says: Not so easy - remember the robotic pet at the start making so much fuss - that could have gone on throughout
5/9 10:46:03.401  [Guild] Lack: griefing needs no  other point
5/9 10:46:07.470  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:46:09.048  Demena has come online.
5/9 10:46:11.597  Noanok has gone offline.
5/9 10:46:14.689  Serne says: To get a mention in Sceince?
5/9 10:46:15.107  To Ybika: it finally got accepted and I finally got permission from blizzard for the screenshots. sooo.. soon hopefully
5/9 10:46:17.998  [Guild] Aquaregia: And now off to a meeting on virtual worlds :)
5/9 10:46:22.969  [Guild] Forme: Are we running to TB from here soonish?
5/9 10:46:23.252  Ybika whispers: ah nice! congrats :)
5/9 10:46:25.265  [4. terrornova] Kartuni left channel.
5/9 10:46:25.268  Kartuni has gone offline.
5/9 10:46:27.784  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:46:29.113  [Guild] Mariadr: thank you for the conference
5/9 10:46:30.038  [Guild] Perplextar: really horde is proscience and alliance against?
5/9 10:46:33.294  Teilnehmer has gone offline.
5/9 10:46:37.759  [Guild] Clarion: who is leading the expedition?
5/9 10:46:38.876  Jusdafacs says: people griefed an in-game funeral
5/9 10:46:39.125  [Guild] Mariadr: kill alliance dead - logging for now - gl
5/9 10:46:42.160  [Guild] Forme: Perplextar: yes, this is correct :)
5/9 10:46:45.897  Catullus has come online.
5/9 10:46:48.706  To Ybika: thanks!  
5/9 10:46:49.541  [Guild] Lack: hahaha
5/9 10:46:50.341  [Guild] Apophenius: when do we get the photo op with head of horde?
5/9 10:46:52.934  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:46:55.803  [Guild] Demena: Alas. I've just missed it? :P
5/9 10:47:02.908  Mariadr has gone offline.
5/9 10:47:10.963  [Guild] Perplextar: is a joke I guess I see no reason for this polarization
5/9 10:47:11.211  [Guild] Parnopaeus: Yes, it has been quite a joy everyone -- see you all soon. =)
5/9 10:47:12.297  [Guild] Catullus: You can return later to Org to meet Thrall.
5/9 10:47:13.436  [Guild] Cymbiotic: can you mark the leader w an icon please?
5/9 10:47:16.562  Gizsela has gone offline.
5/9 10:47:17.970  [Guild] Clarion: would folks mind gathering at the top of the lower hill where I'm at?
5/9 10:47:18.228  Jusdafacs says: so some people are jerks for the joy of being jerks, I guess
5/9 10:47:27.228  [Guild] Clarion: for screenshot
5/9 10:47:30.448  [Guild] Perplextar: but I am a newcomer to wow and know little
5/9 10:47:37.757  [Guild] Clarion: nice!
5/9 10:47:42.471  Cymbiotic receives loot: Raw Slitherskin Mackerel.
5/9 10:47:45.562  Painmanager has left the raid group.
5/9 10:47:46.221  [Guild] Maggiemae: click on the portal
5/9 10:47:53.878  [Guild] Maggiemae: and you shall be transported :D
5/9 10:47:55.379  [Guild] Lack: we're going to shatt?
5/9 10:47:55.624  Hypothesis has joined the guild.
5/9 10:47:55.893  [Guild] Réjean: Zenja wants into the guild, can someone invite him please?
5/9 10:47:57.152  [Guild] Catullus: Folks tell me videocapture succeeded, and I know we have at least two perfect chatlogs!
5/9 10:48:00.968  Painmanager says: oh shucks, i forgot to join your party
5/9 10:48:08.770  [Guild] Niali: yay!
5/9 10:48:11.229  Parnopaeus has gone offline.
5/9 10:48:11.234  [Guild] Maggiemae: there will be another portal to shatt one sec
5/9 10:48:11.598  [Guild] Perplextar: which is the portal?
5/9 10:48:11.883  Zenja has joined the guild.
5/9 10:48:15.435  [Guild] Shahkh: welcome Hypothesis!
5/9 10:48:18.674  Lindrius bursts into dance.
5/9 10:48:20.358  [Guild] Zenoelea: Will the chat logs be posted?
5/9 10:48:20.864  [Guild] Rissy: some of mine came through, stopped it partway though
5/9 10:48:22.246  Artume has gone offline.
5/9 10:48:23.704  [Guild] Hypothesis: thank you kindly
5/9 10:48:27.187  [Guild] Maggiemae: the glowy thing
5/9 10:48:30.217  Shugar dances with Hyyacinth.
5/9 10:48:33.918  [Guild] Profsmith: will we walk on the tour or do we need a portal
5/9 10:48:37.680  [Guild] Zenja: Hello! Thank you for the invite!
5/9 10:48:41.869  [Guild] Aquaregia: where do the chat logs go?
5/9 10:48:52.456  Scienceagain has gone offline.
5/9 10:48:53.666  [Guild] Catullus: We walk! 
5/9 10:49:01.194  [Guild] Thoguht: where you installed WoW\Logs
5/9 10:49:05.768  Khrono tells a joke.
5/9 10:49:05.768  [Guild] Profsmith: i will follow you (newbie)
5/9 10:49:05.774  Lack starts to charge.
5/9 10:49:06.320  [Guild] Maggiemae: who else for shatt portal?
5/9 10:49:11.037  [Guild] Apophenius: its like the parting of the red sea
5/9 10:49:15.035  [Guild] Thoguht: usually, c:\program files\World of Warcraft\Logs
5/9 10:49:15.039  [Guild] Perplextar: I see no glowy thing!!!!!!
5/9 10:49:19.011  [Guild] Catullus: The wiki shows the expedition plan, but we have so many people we should be flexible.
5/9 10:49:25.369  [Guild] Ofielia: port to shatt plz
5/9 10:49:28.668  Jusdafacs says: Twins!
5/9 10:49:35.038  Jusdafacs cheers at Arathise!
5/9 10:49:44.324  Painmanager says: portal request - Shatt
5/9 10:49:44.324  Arathise cheers at Jusdafacs!
5/9 10:49:45.142  [Guild] Ybika: well this laggy orc is logging. bye all!
5/9 10:49:49.470  Zomgscience says: We should totally raid Gor in SL
5/9 10:49:49.479  [Guild] Zenja: Bye!
5/9 10:49:50.299  [Guild] Catullus: Ready to expedit?
5/9 10:49:51.482  Alishya has gone offline.
5/9 10:49:57.767  Ybika has gone offline.
5/9 10:49:59.797  Niali lets everyone know that she is ready!
5/9 10:50:00.074  [Guild] Zenja: x_x where is everyone?
5/9 10:50:01.554  [Guild] Maggiemae: clickie!
5/9 10:50:01.554  [Guild] Clarion: rdy!
5/9 10:50:01.829  Southerncal has gone offline.
5/9 10:50:01.832  [Guild] Ophelie: Can I get a raid invite?
5/9 10:50:04.829  [Guild] Eluminore: expedition, ho!
5/9 10:50:06.729  Yasura lets everyone know that she is ready!
5/9 10:50:07.966  [Guild] Jusdafacs: are we doing a raid?
5/9 10:50:07.966  Gzzomg says: Laugh!
5/9 10:50:09.835  Painmanager says: need to be in party to use portal, correct?
5/9 10:50:12.896  [Guild] Profsmith: dpm
5/9 10:50:17.053  Arathise dances with Shugar.
5/9 10:50:20.004  [Guild] Profsmith: following you...
5/9 10:50:28.388  Kathianim bursts into dance.
5/9 10:50:29.507  [Guild] Catullus: No raid needed, but if you want to set up your own parties and raids, please remember to use the guild chat for anything worth sharing.
5/9 10:50:36.908  Jusdafacs hugs you.
5/9 10:50:43.084  [Guild] Profsmith: /w
5/9 10:50:43.084  [Guild] Kaseido: how do I use the portaL?
5/9 10:50:45.229  [Guild] Catullus: We march thru Org and out the West gate.  OK?!
5/9 10:50:55.376  [Guild] Eluminore: ok to the gate!
5/9 10:50:55.376  Nokota starts to charge.
5/9 10:50:59.051  You hug Jusdafacs.
5/9 10:51:02.102  Jusdafacs cheers at you.
5/9 10:51:06.303  [Guild] Catullus: Follow me!
5/9 10:51:07.344  [Guild] Forme: lowlevs will be a bit slower, aspect of the pack to share anyone?
5/9 10:51:11.262  [Guild] Aquaregia: I'll check on ya'll after my call.
5/9 10:51:13.142  [Guild] Clarion: raid inv plz
5/9 10:51:13.959  [Guild] Maggiemae: ok anyone else for shatt porta;?
5/9 10:51:16.785  [Guild] Maggiemae: portal*
5/9 10:51:17.501  [4. terrornova] *Jusdafacs, Thoguht
5/9 10:51:19.302  [Guild] Khatchi: I can buy it real quick
5/9 10:51:25.740  [4. terrornova] Thoguht: I frapsed everything
5/9 10:51:27.336  [Guild] Ofielia: yes please
5/9 10:51:31.755  Clarion has joined the raid group.
5/9 10:51:33.969  [Guild] Khatchi: can I Get an invite to a group then
5/9 10:51:34.089  Gonzorina's pet begins eating a Tel'Abim Banana.
5/9 10:51:34.569  [Guild] Catullus: Protect lobies from beasts!!!
5/9 10:51:42.458  Demena has gone offline.
5/9 10:51:44.137  [Guild] Ofielia: thx
5/9 10:51:45.417  Khatchi has joined the raid group.
5/9 10:51:46.645  [Guild] Apophenius: whats going on in Shatt?
5/9 10:51:49.586  [Guild] Forme: wow, awesome pictures
5/9 10:52:06.253  [Guild] Réjean: just out of curiousity, anyone in sociology here?
5/9 10:52:17.810  [Guild] Idnan: <- sociology
5/9 10:52:17.810  [Guild] Yasura: yarr :D
5/9 10:52:28.251  [Guild] Réjean: cheers!
5/9 10:52:29.654  [Guild] Catullus: soc
5/9 10:52:31.928  [Guild] Kathianim: a bit
5/9 10:52:33.069  [Guild] Trickshot: College major
5/9 10:52:36.370  [Guild] Eluminore: I think shatt was for ppl who wanted a port there...nothing going on there
5/9 10:52:45.693  [Guild] Eluminore: action is in Org...
5/9 10:52:48.453  [Guild] Perplextar: thanks!
5/9 10:52:53.964  Aquaregia has gone offline.
5/9 10:52:54.207  [Guild] Bowhunk: from shatt you can get to any major city
5/9 10:52:59.291  [Guild] Hypothesis: always nice to have a hearth in shattrath
5/9 10:53:01.738  Liebenwalde has gone offline.
5/9 10:53:12.650  [Guild] Catullus: Into the city, then keep left
5/9 10:53:18.846  [Guild] Charolais: don't you have to be 58 to go to shatt?
5/9 10:53:22.640  [Guild] Khatchi: nope
5/9 10:53:23.287  [Guild] Lack: grats
5/9 10:53:26.400  [Guild] Eluminore: grats Lindrius lol
5/9 10:53:28.421  [Guild] Hypothesis: 58 to go through the dark portal
5/9 10:53:28.590  [Guild] Forme: not via portal
5/9 10:53:31.248  Anaksul has gone offline.
5/9 10:53:33.944  Changed Channel: [1. General - Orgrimmar]
5/9 10:53:33.944  Changed Channel: [2. LocalDefense - Orgrimmar]
5/9 10:53:34.098  [Guild] Painmanager: however, you must have BC installed 
5/9 10:53:35.357  [Guild] Maggiemae: just don't leave or you will get eaten :D
5/9 10:53:36.916  [Guild] Charolais: Interesting
5/9 10:53:37.478  [Guild] Hypothesis: but you can take a mage portal or a warlock summons before then
5/9 10:53:38.277  [Guild] Lindrius: Horray for exploration XP!
5/9 10:53:47.216  Dæmðn's pet begins eating a Soothing Turtle Bisque.
5/9 10:53:48.756  [Guild] Elywen: lol
5/9 10:54:02.718  [Guild] Kathianim: haha
5/9 10:54:08.246  [Guild] Forme: explore, conquer,  demolish
5/9 10:54:14.913  [Guild] Catullus: up here in this door
5/9 10:54:22.289  Kultura has gone offline.
5/9 10:54:23.385  [Guild] Catullus: BCK! HERE!
5/9 10:54:25.433  [Guild] Redhairshana: not much for exploration xp tho, tried
5/9 10:54:33.383  Maggiemae has gone offline.
5/9 10:54:36.477  [Guild] Catullus: In the door, and up
5/9 10:54:50.739  Araculla has gone offline.
5/9 10:54:51.160  [Guild] Catullus: Here
5/9 10:54:53.089  [Guild] Irma: by the signpost
5/9 10:55:05.788  Sprye has gone offline.
5/9 10:55:07.518  [Guild] Khatchi: aspect of the pack acquired
5/9 10:55:20.967  Wohitika has gone offline.
5/9 10:55:28.491  Elywen cheers at Lindrius!
5/9 10:55:33.674  Lindrius cheers at Elywen!
5/9 10:55:41.737  To Nokota: my stupid unit frame isn't fading like it's supposed to..
5/9 10:55:44.732  [Guild] Catullus: To the bridge
5/9 10:55:55.115  [Guild] Ophelie: Where are we heading out from?
5/9 10:56:00.690  Noralore has gone offline.
5/9 10:56:02.576  [Guild] Irma: west gate
5/9 10:56:03.093  [Guild] Slizelina: im lost
5/9 10:56:04.058  Idnan has gone offline.
5/9 10:56:07.453  [Guild] Painmanager: oops!
5/9 10:56:07.928  [Guild] Ophelie: ty
5/9 10:56:09.489  [Guild] Gonzorina: this is hilarious
5/9 10:56:10.609  [Guild] Cymbiotic: i feel like a preschooler
5/9 10:56:13.049  [Guild] Catullus: We are about to cross the river bridge, out the West gate of Org.
5/9 10:56:14.050  Nokota whispers: do you think blizz will respond to this conf?
5/9 10:56:19.447  Ronaan has gone offline.
5/9 10:56:21.489  To Nokota: dunno
5/9 10:56:31.047  Idnan has come online.
5/9 10:56:34.740  You fall asleep.  Zzzzzzz.
5/9 10:56:39.407  [Guild] Yasura: getting out of Org is the hard part ;P
5/9 10:56:39.685  [Guild] Eluminore: side exit out of Orgrimmar
5/9 10:56:42.767  [Guild] Saureus: yay, my first visit to Shatt!!!
5/9 10:56:51.481  [Guild] Eluminore: westernmost point on Org map
5/9 10:56:53.918  Niali tickles you.  Hee hee!
5/9 10:56:56.523  [Guild] Zenja: XD This is fun!
5/9 10:56:57.136  [Guild] Clarion: wait for me!
5/9 10:57:08.600  [Guild] Catullus: From here we go south to the road, killing beasts soon to protect lowbies
5/9 10:57:11.564  [Guild] Keath: FYL, big info dump on next expansion over on Eurogamer site
5/9 10:57:17.252  [Guild] Saureus: I"m coming!
5/9 10:57:18.724  Changed Channel: [1. General - The Barrens]
5/9 10:57:18.728  Changed Channel: [2. LocalDefense - The Barrens]
5/9 10:57:21.984  [Guild] Niali: I'd meant to level up more, but spaced on dates
5/9 10:57:40.563  [Guild] Keath: most of the fansites are posting the relevent info on Deathknights, new raid zones, new mechanics, etc.
5/9 10:57:48.512  [Guild] Zenja: I was trying to get to 30.. but I had to work XD
5/9 10:58:04.753  [Guild] Zulatol: feels like we lost some people
5/9 10:58:06.319  [Guild] Eluminore: I missed 30 by 1 level  :P
5/9 10:58:11.075  [Guild] Lack: yeah, i was hoping i could show up to the conference in shadowform
5/9 10:58:12.635  [Guild] Slizelina: yes
5/9 10:58:13.943  [Guild] Yasura: yea I think we lost like half :<
5/9 10:58:25.311  [Guild] Ophelie: What's our first stop, and are we going to regroup there?
5/9 10:58:37.192  [Guild] Forme: pls camp up outside and wait
5/9 10:58:37.510  [Guild] Painmanager: we peaked at 105 members online I think. currently 71
5/9 10:58:45.059  [Guild] Zulatol: everyone wait
5/9 10:58:47.778  Lindrius says: this is definitely not a peta conference.
5/9 10:58:51.391  [Guild] Catullus: We will stop in Crossroads
5/9 10:58:52.694  Yasura laughs.
5/9 10:58:52.952  [Guild] Slizelina: in here
5/9 10:58:56.123  [Guild] Zenja: lol
5/9 10:58:57.847  Niali rolls on the floor laughing.
5/9 10:58:59.058  Shiyali receives loot: Long Tail Hair.
5/9 10:58:59.712  [Guild] Jusdafacs: can we stop here to wait?
5/9 10:59:02.187  [Guild] Lack: we need a waypoint to let folks catch up
5/9 10:59:02.458  Shiyali receives loot: Ruined Leather Scraps.
5/9 10:59:03.965  Zulatol says: lol, killing wildlife is fun =P
5/9 10:59:04.409  To Nokota: following you for a sec
5/9 10:59:08.807  Nokota whispers: k
5/9 10:59:12.370  Yasura gently pats Panda Cub.
5/9 10:59:13.385  [Guild] Dissimula: what's the final destination of the trip?
5/9 10:59:13.385  Zenja says: lol
5/9 10:59:19.115  [Guild] Catullus: You want to halt here?
5/9 10:59:23.281  Rissy has gone offline.
5/9 10:59:28.715  [Guild] Charolais: Wow 2XP
5/9 10:59:30.116  [Guild] Jusdafacs: I think we lost people in Org
5/9 10:59:31.204  Arathise dances with Nokota.
5/9 10:59:33.681  Kathianim receives loot: Long Tail Hair.
5/9 10:59:36.902  Nokota bursts into dance.
5/9 10:59:41.514  [Guild] Slizelina: yes, lost a bunch of us in org
5/9 10:59:41.514  [Guild] Catullus: Thunder Bluff, but getting the Crossroads, Ratchet, and Taurajo flight paths
5/9 10:59:42.886  Zenja dances with Arathise.
5/9 10:59:43.729  Passera dances with Nokota.
5/9 10:59:46.105  Ventres has gone offline.
5/9 10:59:48.849  [Guild] Painmanager: REQ raid invite 
5/9 10:59:53.598  [Guild] Gonzorina: ANYONE WHO IS LOST:  whisper to me and I'll invite you into a party so you can see us on the map!
5/9 10:59:56.338  [Guild] Catullus: Ok, lat's go
5/9 10:59:59.734  Jusdafacs hugs Nokota.
5/9 11:00:03.378  Gonzorina has joined the raid group.
5/9 11:00:06.117  [Guild] Catullus: Good, Gonz
5/9 11:00:11.863  Painmanager has joined the raid group.
5/9 11:00:16.398  [Guild] Ophelie: Ditto, if Gonz's group gets full.
5/9 11:00:20.201  Kionoto has gone offline.
5/9 11:00:24.583  Einarson performs Mining on Copper Vein.
5/9 11:00:28.761  Gonzorina has left the raid group.
5/9 11:00:29.022  Einarson performs Mining on Copper Vein.
5/9 11:00:29.473  [Guild] Passera: hey, let me get a whack at that node
5/9 11:00:33.476  Einarson performs Mining on Copper Vein.
5/9 11:01:03.101  [Guild] Jusdafacs: this is the best conference event I've ever attended lol
5/9 11:01:09.295  [Guild] Zenja: same here XD
5/9 11:01:11.915  Geradamas performs Herb Gathering on Earthroot.
5/9 11:01:12.757  [Guild] Zulatol: by far
5/9 11:01:13.778  [Guild] Trickshot: YEAH!
5/9 11:01:17.902  [Guild] Niali: absolutely!
5/9 11:01:18.149  [Guild] Hypothesis: wish there were some drinks tho
5/9 11:01:24.620  [Guild] Gonzorina: OK, I HAVE A PARTY OF 5.  SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE VOLUNTEER TO PARTY UP WITH LOST KIDS
5/9 11:01:25.393  [Guild] Passera: check your fridge
5/9 11:01:27.163  [Guild] Jusdafacs: Gonz, you can turn it into a raid to get more than 5 peeps in the group
5/9 11:01:29.251  [Guild] Kaseido: best swag bags too!
5/9 11:01:33.991  [Guild] Irma: did someone forget the drinks?
5/9 11:01:36.755  [Guild] Trickshot: i can help anyone i have a mount
5/9 11:01:40.424  [Guild] Saureus: I volunteer
5/9 11:01:40.960  [Guild] Passera: i'll take some lost people. pst me for a group invite
5/9 11:01:41.351  [Guild] Lack: how about some  Ice Cold Milk
5/9 11:01:44.189  [Guild] Ophelie: I have two spots in my group, too.
5/9 11:01:46.700  [Guild] Hypothesis: good idea i need a fridge in my office ...
5/9 11:01:47.644  [Guild] Catullus: Yeah, maybe we can have Gonz run a raid
5/9 11:01:48.154  [Guild] Cplane: I will PST
5/9 11:01:48.560  Gizsela has come online.
5/9 11:01:49.905  [Guild] Ophelie: Whisper me for an invite.
5/9 11:01:58.748  [Guild] Irma: I have  Refreshing Spring Water
5/9 11:02:08.305  Perplextar has gone offline.
5/9 11:02:10.406  [Guild] Trickshot: Make sure you behave.  Don't act like a  Scum Covered Bag
5/9 11:02:24.898  [Guild] Hypothesis: well said well said
5/9 11:02:26.205  Niali yells: for Science!
5/9 11:02:27.654  Cymbiotic has left the raid group.
5/9 11:02:44.379  [Guild] Forme: i bring some lost kids, too :)
5/9 11:02:52.548  [Guild] Forme: thanks for cleaning up the pest onw
5/9 11:02:53.747  Apophenius has left the raid group.
5/9 11:02:59.265  To Nokota: where are we going?
5/9 11:03:08.098  [Guild] Apophenius: pant pant
5/9 11:03:08.982  Lindrius shoos Zhevra Runner away. Be gone pest!
5/9 11:03:09.223  Lack starts to charge.
5/9 11:03:09.724  Lindrius shoos Zhevra Runner away. Be gone pest!
5/9 11:03:09.925  Nokota whispers: not sure, lemme check
5/9 11:03:19.469  [Guild] Niali: getting our workout today!
5/9 11:03:20.940  [Guild] Kathianim: haha
5/9 11:03:26.364  [Guild] Dissimula: i've already run my legs to the bones
5/9 11:03:32.275  [Guild] Zenja: lol!
5/9 11:03:32.516  [Guild] Ophelie: How do I make a raid group?
5/9 11:03:33.674  [Guild] Charolais: virtual exercise
5/9 11:03:44.720  Nokota whispers: looks like a tour of the barrens
5/9 11:03:58.828  [Guild] Yasura: go to your social tab (O) and find Raid. And then click 'Convert to Raid'
5/9 11:03:59.519  [Guild] Jusdafacs: go into raid tab
5/9 11:04:00.049  [Guild] Lack: i read about a guy who hooked his computer up to a treadmill, so that  his WoW playing was powered by actual exercise.
5/9 11:04:04.495  [Guild] Apophenius: i just whacked a giraffe 
5/9 11:04:08.756  [Guild] Keath: should just click on the raid tab adn then conver to raid button
5/9 11:04:26.013  [Guild] Lack: or an exercise bike, rather
5/9 11:04:31.212  [Guild] Apophenius: feel bad about it - lol
5/9 11:04:33.331  [Guild] Ophelie: ty
5/9 11:04:34.808  [Guild] Tegularius: That was great fun all, see you tomorrow!
5/9 11:04:41.184  Serne has gone offline.
5/9 11:04:45.485  [Guild] Cplane: no way to treadmilling it - how do you handle the mouse?
5/9 11:04:53.180  Getfunked has gone offline.
5/9 11:04:54.109  Tegularius has gone offline.
5/9 11:04:54.762  [Guild] Niali: very carefully
5/9 11:05:04.835  [Guild] Lack: haha
5/9 11:05:11.471  [Guild] Irma: should use an exercise bike, instead
5/9 11:05:11.744  Lack yells: FOR SCIENCE!
5/9 11:05:15.689  Lindrius is scared of Savannah Huntress.
5/9 11:05:17.840  [Guild] Jusdafacs: we have a guy in our guild who's set up a treadmill-computer system, not that the computer is powered by the treadmill though
5/9 11:05:19.833  [Guild] Thoguht: treadmill and eyetracker!
5/9 11:05:27.262  [Guild] Gonzorina: OK I'VE ESTABLISHED A RAID...i think... SO ANY MORE LOST PEOPLE, JUST WHISPER TO ME FOR INVITE
5/9 11:05:45.690  Yasura says: Ze crossroads!
5/9 11:05:46.203  Ronayu creates Heavy Wool Bandage.
5/9 11:05:47.952  [Guild] Réjean: I envy that treadmill system, I want one
5/9 11:05:49.118  Ronayu creates Heavy Wool Bandage.
5/9 11:05:52.167  Ronayu creates Heavy Wool Bandage.
5/9 11:05:52.452  [Guild] Passera: me too
5/9 11:05:52.749  [Guild] Zulatol: we made it!
5/9 11:05:55.632  Ronayu creates Heavy Wool Bandage.
5/9 11:05:56.642  Passera yells: FOR SCIENCE!
5/9 11:05:58.794  Ronayu creates Heavy Wool Bandage.
5/9 11:05:59.455  [Guild] Catullus: At Crossroads, make sure you get the flight path from this flight master
5/9 11:06:01.434  [Guild] Réjean: you should patent it lol
5/9 11:06:07.132  Niali yells: for science!
5/9 11:06:08.220  [Guild] Eluminore: guild chat has overwhelmed "barrens chat"  :D
5/9 11:06:13.436  [Guild] Forme: are you running off from XR already?
5/9 11:06:14.165  [Guild] Yasura: it's the green ! on your mini map
5/9 11:06:14.649  [Guild] Dissimula: lol
5/9 11:06:15.739  [Guild] Khatchi: missing Chuck NOrris
5/9 11:06:17.402  [Guild] Zenja: Yay we did it!
5/9 11:06:23.743  [Guild] Charolais: OK, now everyone log into barrens general and tell a Chuck Norris joke
5/9 11:06:26.549  [Guild] Zenja: ..! I have a quest to turn in here!
5/9 11:06:30.958  [1. General] Zulatol: <insert chuck norris joke here>
5/9 11:06:33.469  [Guild] Catullus: In a few minutes, we will walk to Ratchet, then fly back all together!
5/9 11:06:33.473  [Guild] Niali: omg
5/9 11:06:34.198  [Guild] Forme: Charolais!!!! ROFL
5/9 11:06:40.461  [Guild] Yasura: lol
5/9 11:06:46.853  [Guild] Kathianim: haha
5/9 11:06:48.461  [1. General] Stormstrike: Chuck norris had a heart attack once... his heart lost
5/9 11:06:49.041  [Guild] Painmanager: Guild chat spelling > Barrens chat spelling
5/9 11:06:55.658  [Guild] Irma: no, we should pick some science legend, instead of chuck norris!
5/9 11:06:58.239  [1. General] Yasura: :O
5/9 11:06:59.931  [1. General] Stormstrike: Happy?
5/9 11:07:02.562  [Guild] Passera: edumacashion. it werks. :P
5/9 11:07:08.896  [1. General] Broarga: lol, wow
5/9 11:07:09.934  [Guild] Jusdafacs: yay, Irma
5/9 11:07:10.388  [Guild] Hypothesis: isaac newton
5/9 11:07:11.802  [1. General] Zenja: <Insert ALbert Einstein Joke Here>
5/9 11:07:12.906  [Guild] Kathianim: Stephen Hawking?
5/9 11:07:16.299  [Guild] Hypothesis: isaac newton could beat chuck norris
5/9 11:07:17.972  Adarel has gone offline.
5/9 11:07:18.536  Megapix has come online.
5/9 11:07:23.083  [Guild] Bowhunk: Stephen Hawking
5/9 11:07:23.663  [Guild] Profsmith: how do you tell if you have the flight path?
5/9 11:07:23.865  Arathise has gone offline.
5/9 11:07:24.246  [1. General] Forme: Chuck Norris is so smart he could solve world poverty with a roundhouse kick!
5/9 11:07:25.913  [Guild] Geradamas: in a duel>?
5/9 11:07:28.520  [Guild] Niali: stephen hawking could beat chuck norris
5/9 11:07:30.996  [Guild] Catullus: Take screenshots
5/9 11:07:41.501  [Guild] Kathianim: definitely
5/9 11:07:41.501  [Guild] Lack: Abu Musa Jābir ibn Hayyān!
5/9 11:07:43.767  [1. General] Dumbar: anyone want  Pattern: Heavy Woolen Cloak for 30 silver
5/9 11:07:54.980  [Guild] Irma: just click on the flightmaster, but don't go anywhere
5/9 11:08:00.833  [Guild] Catullus: If the flight master responded to you, you have the path.
5/9 11:08:04.729  [Guild] Passera: talk to the flight master and see what he says
5/9 11:08:09.767  [Guild] Kathianim: he could just run over him inhis wheelchair
5/9 11:08:14.391  [Guild] Keath: The apple didn't fall out of the tree, Newton scared it to death just by sitting down near it
5/9 11:08:17.802  [Guild] Jusdafacs: damn, I can't think of a single chuck norris joke
5/9 11:08:27.479  [Guild] Jusdafacs: lol Keath
5/9 11:08:36.544  [Guild] Zenja: XD
5/9 11:08:36.544  [Guild] Clarion: where to next guys?
5/9 11:08:37.635  [Guild] Catullus: We are waiting for people to get the flight path, etc.
5/9 11:08:37.972  [Guild] Hypothesis: isaac newton tells 30 chuck norris jokes before breakfast
5/9 11:08:38.259  [1. General] Eluminore: Einstein's E=mc2 was really designed to explain the energy caused by the mass of Chuck's 2 fists
5/9 11:08:39.972  [Guild] Lack: Abu Musa Jābir ibn Hayyān's tears cure cancer. It's too bad he's never cried.
5/9 11:08:43.043  [Guild] Dissimula: Ramon Lull
5/9 11:08:47.131  [Guild] Niali: lol
5/9 11:08:47.959  [1. General] Irma: yes, but how many pulitzer's does chuck norris have, hmm?
5/9 11:09:13.837  [Guild] Keath: Hawking uses the computer program to talk because if normal people heard his angelic voice, they would collapse into utter despari
5/9 11:09:22.675  [Guild] Eluminore: lol
5/9 11:09:29.217  [1. General] Shiyali: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
5/9 11:09:36.482  [Guild] Bowhunk: lol
5/9 11:09:39.370  [1. General] Passera: To kick your ***?
5/9 11:09:48.187  [1. General] Hypothesis: to escape from isaac newton
5/9 11:09:48.187  [Guild] Jusdafacs: yay! chuck norris jokes!
5/9 11:09:52.930  [Guild] Catullus: Ready to go to Ratchet? LOWBIES: pick up the Ratchet flight path.
5/9 11:09:53.231  [1. General] Jusdafacs: lol
5/9 11:09:55.334  [Guild] Trickshot: keep dancing i want to video this
5/9 11:09:58.495  [Guild] Charolais: Stephen Hawking uses a wheelchair so his footsteps don't cause the earth to shake.
5/9 11:10:01.418  [Guild] Eluminore: now we've experienced the true joy of Xroads
5/9 11:10:03.710  [Guild] Profsmith: who is the flightmaster?
5/9 11:10:04.015  [1. General] Shiyali: To get to the horrible movie script on the other side!
5/9 11:10:05.639  [Guild] Khatchi: should video the entire run..
5/9 11:10:10.245  [Guild] Keath: Hawking's wheelchair doesn't enable him to move, it contains his massive power from destroying all reality
5/9 11:10:15.272  [Guild] Hypothesis: is alliance attacking?
5/9 11:10:15.773  [1. General] Broarga: lol
5/9 11:10:31.953  [Guild] Painmanager: any minute now, I'm sure.
5/9 11:10:33.500  [Guild] Catullus: Devrak beside Catullus who is on his purple bird is the flight master here
5/9 11:10:40.027  [Guild] Jusdafacs: why does alliance attack XRoads? to destroy people telling Chuck NOrris jokes
5/9 11:10:44.407  [Guild] Painmanager: we'll get pummeled with /rude and /chicken
5/9 11:10:45.488  [Guild] Hypothesis: hawking's wheelchair doesn't move - the universe moves around hawking's wheelchair
5/9 11:10:45.729  Rissy has come online.
5/9 11:10:46.210  Bowhunk bursts into dance.
5/9 11:10:48.227  Eluminore says: RELEASE catapult!!!
5/9 11:10:50.406  Dissimula bursts into dance.
5/9 11:10:50.794  Clarion dances with Nokota.
5/9 11:10:57.224  Niali laughs at Eluminore.
5/9 11:10:59.113  [Guild] Kiliel: there is no holy trinity: it's Newton, Kepler and Oppenheimer giving a high-five
5/9 11:11:00.370  Yasura says: we're grouping and then heading to Ratchet
5/9 11:11:03.671  Idnan bursts into dance.
5/9 11:11:04.127  Painmanager flicks the catapult switch.
5/9 11:11:07.315  Yasura says: re-grouping* rather
5/9 11:11:11.487  Painmanager waves goodbye to Eluminore.  Farewell!
5/9 11:11:12.014  Clarion dances with Kaseido.
5/9 11:11:16.980  Jusdafacs dances with Ophelie.
5/9 11:11:16.980  [Guild] Catullus: Shall we begin the trek to Ratchet?
5/9 11:11:17.357  [Guild] Cplane: OMG from Norris jokes to Hawking jokes!
5/9 11:11:25.718  Kiliel bursts into dance.
5/9 11:11:26.938  Painmanager looses the rachet.
5/9 11:11:26.938  Lack yells: TO RATCHET!
5/9 11:11:27.515  [Guild] Saunter: not to be the bearer of bad news Catallus, but your bird thinks its pink
5/9 11:11:28.948  Zenoelea bursts into dance.
5/9 11:11:30.168  [Guild] Cplane: You know you are in the right guild when ....
5/9 11:11:33.909  Nokota starts to charge.
5/9 11:11:37.499  [Guild] Profsmith: oops
5/9 11:11:37.850  Painmanager examines the catapult mechanism
5/9 11:11:38.993  Forme yells: RATCHET HERE WE COME
5/9 11:11:39.819  [Guild] Hypothesis: is there a translation list for telling chuck norris jokes to alliance?
5/9 11:11:41.433  Painmanager says: Sabotage!
5/9 11:11:43.464  Uljasa cheers at Devrak!
5/9 11:11:44.351  Niali lets everyone know that she is ready!
5/9 11:11:45.561  [Guild] Jusdafacs: lol
5/9 11:11:46.986  [Guild] Profsmith: i am flying away somewhere
5/9 11:11:50.827  [Guild] Dissimula: Stephen Hawking slums as a physicist so people won't realize he's a superintellligent extraterrestrial
5/9 11:11:51.569  [Guild] Kathianim: haha
5/9 11:11:54.310  [Guild] Zenja: This guild rocks.
5/9 11:11:59.408  [Guild] Catullus: ON to Ratchet!
5/9 11:12:04.418  [Guild] Profsmith: how to get this bird to go back?
5/9 11:12:05.742  Khatchi says: find the rogue!
5/9 11:12:14.973  [Guild] Forme: click it again )
5/9 11:12:34.196  [Guild] Kathianim: no attack? for shame!
5/9 11:12:47.280  Rimple's pet begins eating a Chunk of Boar Meat.
5/9 11:12:49.559  [Guild] Ophelie: I would, but my Ally on this server is only lvl 20.
5/9 11:12:53.791  [Guild] Ophelie: Sorry!
5/9 11:12:53.910  [Guild] Catullus: We will attack them Sunday, in Westfall
5/9 11:12:54.364  [Guild] Hypothesis: the truth about chuck norris jokes: they are an illusion constructed by stephen hawking to provide the illusion of time
5/9 11:13:02.040  [Guild] Niali: that will be FUN!
5/9 11:13:02.395  [1. General] Eluminore: What made Chuck Norris stay in school? Science!! stay in school, kiddies...
5/9 11:13:12.684  [Guild] Zulatol: Time for FUN!
5/9 11:13:14.729  [Guild] Kathianim: Haha
5/9 11:13:21.676  [Guild] Profsmith: flying back to the crossroads
5/9 11:13:23.053  [Guild] Painmanager: still so many of us. 21 fps and falling.
5/9 11:13:24.082  [Guild] Zulatol: =P
5/9 11:13:25.180  [Guild] Profsmith: whew
5/9 11:13:26.913  [Guild] Keath: Noooo, now shadowlabs....
5/9 11:13:27.024  [1. General] Cocytus: Incorrect.
5/9 11:13:27.232  Sunscale Screecher lets out a shriek, calling for help!
5/9 11:13:39.297  [Guild] Charolais: Stephen Hawking once told a Chuck Norris joke....and it was FUNNY.
5/9 11:13:39.492  [1. General] Cocytus: And the Sciene guild is full of douche bags.
5/9 11:13:39.978  [Guild] Profsmith: someone wait for me?
5/9 11:13:43.008  [Guild] Togda: for fun lets run from booty bay north
5/9 11:13:45.207  [Guild] Gizsela: what we need is an agent provocateur
5/9 11:13:46.486  [1. General] Cocytus: You all will burn in hell.
5/9 11:13:48.404  Hyyacinth has gone offline.
5/9 11:13:50.874  [Guild] Kathianim: Stephen Hawking knows time travel is impossible because he controls time
5/9 11:13:54.924  [Guild] Catullus: Note the classi Tauren rock painting
5/9 11:14:00.044  [Guild] Bowhunk: lol
5/9 11:14:04.528  [Guild] Catullus: Where Catullus and his bird are
5/9 11:14:05.529  [1. General] Painmanager: are you sure Hell is exothermic?
5/9 11:14:13.202  [Guild] Eluminore: we're getting hate!! i love it
5/9 11:14:21.701  Megapix has gone offline.
5/9 11:14:35.205  [1. General] Cocytus: Kid, stfu, go outside, find a woman, and get laid.
5/9 11:14:37.673  [Guild] Ophelie: I have a raid icon over your head for my raid, Catallus. Maybe others should do the same, for visibility?
5/9 11:14:50.027  [1. General] Cocytus: You little nerds make me sick to my stomache.
5/9 11:14:53.808  [1. General] Irma: I'm already in heaven, thanks
5/9 11:14:54.091  [Guild] Lack: hahahahaha
5/9 11:14:55.396  [1. General] Dissimula: i love getting advice from peeps who have clearly never done what they advise
5/9 11:15:14.777  [1. General] Zenja: Oh barrens chat :( never change. <3
5/9 11:15:15.288  Lack yells: FOR SCIENCE!
5/9 11:15:22.359  [1. General] Cocytus: Yes, I never get laid, and I have a fiancee.
5/9 11:15:22.364  [Guild] Eluminore: we have enraged the barrens chat
5/9 11:15:23.312  Painmanager yells: FOR SCIENCE!
5/9 11:15:23.316  [Guild] Apophenius: raaaaaaachet
5/9 11:15:29.109  [1. General] Grimflower: Cocytus can't get laid 'cause he's FRIGID
5/9 11:15:29.681  [Guild] Catullus: Get the flight path here from this little green guy
5/9 11:15:45.173  Megapix has come online.
5/9 11:15:46.385  [1. General] Jusdafacs: woo! we're nerds!
5/9 11:15:51.077  [Guild] Catullus: Once you have it move back to make way for others.
5/9 11:15:51.347  [1. General] Forme: A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS TOOK OVER RATCHET AND TAUGHT A FLIGHTMASTER A FEW DIRTY TRICKS
5/9 11:15:52.487  [Guild] Zulatol: can I get a guild tabard from anyone?
5/9 11:15:53.039  [1. General] Cocytus: And you can't get laid because you have a 2 milimeter penis grats!
5/9 11:15:54.423  [Guild] Dissimula: enraged barrens chat is about as tough as scaring pigeons
5/9 11:15:57.655  [1. General] Cocytus: Get a pump.
5/9 11:16:09.161  Einarson creates Gold Bar.
5/9 11:16:11.972  Einarson creates Gold Bar.
5/9 11:16:13.630  [1. General] Passera: Wow. You have totally impressed me with your massively oversized coc. And your maturity.
5/9 11:16:19.007  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:22.062  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:22.312  [Guild] Dissimula: the real challenge would be NOT enraging barrens chat
5/9 11:16:24.146  [1. General] Irma:  /moo
5/9 11:16:25.343  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:25.794  [1. General] Grimflower: Cocytus doesn't recognize a pun when he sees one
5/9 11:16:26.752  [Guild] Saureus: all the insults to your presumed "manhood"
5/9 11:16:28.258  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:28.525  [Guild] Catullus: AnyLOWBIES worried about getting to Booty Bay can also place their hearthstone at the Racthet inn and take the boat.  Who wants to?
5/9 11:16:29.402  [Guild] Eluminore: lol
5/9 11:16:30.245  [Guild] Hypothesis: excellent point
5/9 11:16:31.600  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:34.854  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:38.140  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:41.102  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:44.274  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:47.613  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:50.506  [Guild] Niali: good idea
5/9 11:16:50.846  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:50.846  [Guild] Zenja: I think I should. XD
5/9 11:16:53.983  Einarson creates Iron Bar.
5/9 11:16:54.538  [Guild] Catullus: I amo going to the INN to show anybody where it is
5/9 11:16:55.608  [4. terrornova] *Jusdafacs, Thoguht
5/9 11:16:59.869  [Guild] Forme: all for booty!
5/9 11:17:00.136  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:03.020  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:03.027  [1. General] Cocytus: And you don't recognize ignorance when you are a true contributor to the cause.
5/9 11:17:05.876  Jusdafacs added to friends.
5/9 11:17:06.143  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:09.335  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:12.517  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:15.618  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:18.770  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:21.935  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:23.039  Painmanager cheers at Panda Cub!
5/9 11:17:25.265  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:28.597  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:31.771  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:34.101  [1. General] Jusdafacs: truly a shining light of intelligent discourse
5/9 11:17:34.750  Irma dances with Bragok.
5/9 11:17:34.750  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:35.871  Ybika added to friends.
5/9 11:17:38.024  Einarson creates Tin Bar.
5/9 11:17:40.889  [Guild] Clarion: onto the ship?
5/9 11:17:41.540  [1. General] Grimflower: I mean, you DO realize 'Cocytus' is a FROZEN lake, yeah?
5/9 11:17:43.003  Einarson creates Copper Bar.
5/9 11:17:44.367  [1. General] Cocytus: Passera your an idiot you obviously don't know anything do you? Cocytus is the 9th ring of hell.
5/9 11:17:46.053  Einarson creates Copper Bar.
5/9 11:17:48.034  [Guild] Catullus: If you set your heathstone at this INN, tomorrow you can come back here - AFTER GROM'GOL - and take the boat to Booty
5/9 11:17:50.170  Einarson creates Copper Bar.
5/9 11:17:51.212  [1. General] Kiliel: hey everyone, Cocytus just got dumped-- send him lots of love so he doesn't kill himself
5/9 11:18:03.124  [Guild] Gonzorina: I'm home!
5/9 11:18:20.534  [Guild] Bowhunk: are we going back to crossroads now?
5/9 11:18:24.480  [1. General] Cocytus: And Grimfairduster, the same go towards you that I told Passera.
5/9 11:18:26.650  [Guild] Catullus: When we are all done here, we fly in formation back to Crossroads, then see the Shrine of the Fallen Warrior
5/9 11:18:29.022  [Guild] Forme: ARGH in ratched and no fishing pole :(
5/9 11:18:41.993  Shiyali dances with Redhairshana.
5/9 11:18:46.863  [Guild] Irma: or for an advanced exercise, after the expedition, you can get the fp in BB, and fly straight from Gromgol to BB later on
5/9 11:18:49.082  Shiyali dances with Cloacina.
5/9 11:19:00.919  [1. General] Demonshaman: where is Kranal Fiss?
5/9 11:19:04.556  [Guild] Catullus: Retunr to the flight master and get ready for a mass flight
5/9 11:19:16.323  [Guild] Thoguht: I have to leave.  See you all tomorrow!
5/9 11:19:18.028  [Guild] Jusdafacs: don't walk on the eagle's head
5/9 11:19:18.713  [Guild] Catullus: we'll wait till everybody's here
5/9 11:19:23.431  Eluminore waves goodbye to you.  Farewell!
5/9 11:19:24.714  [1. General] Cocytus: In your mothers bedroom.
5/9 11:19:25.030  [Guild] Dissimula: for those new to wow, you can type "/ignore" followed by a player name to put them on ignored status... never hear a peep out of em eer again
5/9 11:19:26.752  [1. General] Demonshaman: the guy for the shammy quest
5/9 11:19:27.028  [1. General] Passera: I'm familiar with Dante's work. I'm also familiar with the fine art of the flame, which you apparently still need to master.
5/9 11:19:35.223  Shiyali dances with Kiliel.
5/9 11:19:36.769  Idnan has gone offline.
5/9 11:19:40.463  [1. General] Demonshaman: huh?
5/9 11:19:43.102  Shiyali dances with Clarion.
5/9 11:19:46.262  Geradamas cheers!
5/9 11:19:47.702  [Guild] Irma: or right click their name in chat to do the same
5/9 11:19:48.545  [Guild] Forme: ty!
5/9 11:19:49.498  [Guild] Lack: where are we headed now?
5/9 11:19:51.285  [1. General] Demonshaman: dont be a dick Cocytus u got no room to talk
5/9 11:19:51.559  Clarion dances with Shiyali.
5/9 11:19:51.811  [Guild] Niali: can type "/leave" channel, too, if you get tired of general chat